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    CC's Fall Breeding Groups

    If all goes well I will be setting eggs from the following breeding groups the second week in November, once their dedicated shed is finished and filled. I JUST finished moving everyone around, they don't seem to be murdering each other as of yet, and now I've just got to wait for most of the...
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    Japanese Coturnix Falb-Fee Discussion Thread

    The falb-fee genes basically suck all the warm tons out of the normal pharaoh pattern, turning it into a striking cream, grey, and black bird. Theoretically, this is an incomplete dominant, meaning that birds with only one copy of the gene will express the color, but birds with two copies will...
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    Japanese Coturnix Sex-Linked Roux Charcoal "Sandy" Project

    Charcoal/Grau-fee Discussion Thread Roux Dilute Discussion Thread My recent obsession, and what I'm dedicating the most space to moving forward. It all started with this dude, Grandpappy Charcoal (who's also in my avatar pic). When I bred him to a production line pharoah female, I ended up...
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    Pearl-Fee/Snowie Coturnix Quail Discussion Thread

    Main Color Directory Pearl-fee is said to have been created using falb-fees but I've also never gotten a throwback falb-fee from a pearl-fee (unexpected) and I'm a little unsure of the exact genetic mechanisms going on here. I will probably see if we can get JMF or any of the big guys who know...
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    Roux Dilute/Egyptian Coturnix Quail Discussion Thread

    Main Color Directory This is a real fun one, and one of the few known sex-link genes in coturnix. Since females control gender in birds, and have only one Z gene, they only need one copy of the "roux" gene to express the coloration, whereas males, who have two Z genes, need two - one from each...
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    Charcoal/Grau-Fee Coturnix Quail Discussion Thread

    Main Color Directory I'm starting with my favorite color! There is a lot of variation in both shade (warm vs. cool) and patterning (more laced vs. more scalloped or solid appearance) with these guys. There's a possibility that either "fee" genes or the same lacing genes that rosetta birds...
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    CC's Coturnix Color Chat Thread Directory

    Hi guys! This is mostly a placeholder for now because I'm sleepy but if I don't get started on it I never will. These are all going to be links to individual threads for most of the major colors and their combinations including links to all the information we can scrounge on the genetics and a...
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    Northern California Quail Fanciers

    There are enough of us now I figured it was about time we had our own thread for chatting, swapping, keeping updated with hatches and talking about local events and projects! Feel free to introduce yourself, show off pictures of your setup and birds, etc. I've been taking a bit of a hatching...
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    CC's Acidic High-Altitude High-UV Bone Dry Desolation Gardening Journal

    So, I live pretty close to the aptly named Desolation Wilderness. The conifer forests that drop thick mats of acidic pine needles everywhere. The only natural groundcover is manzanita; you have to be in a floodplain for grass to ever grow. The ground underneath that is sand and rock. Sandy loam...
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    Introducing Mr. Blue Buns!

    Or, how CC learned she needs to bunny-proof the yard before walks. My new Flemish baby has more personality than the rest of my rabbits rolled into one but also more energy for mischief! Try to trap me?! Imma dig out. Mom ur tryin to trick me this is a ribbon I bet I could chew through...
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    Pinemat manzanita/bearberry/kinnickinnick + rabbits

    Hello all! I know common (and probably green-leaf?) manzanita, the traditional beautiful dark bark ones, are safe for rabbits to chew on, but does anyone know if pinemat manzanita is? I see multiple references to them never chewing on it in the wild and none in reference to safety for domestic...
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    A PSA about Quail Roos and Population Control

    I have noticed there has been a bit of a rush of people concerned with what to do with all their extra male quail lately, and unfortunately some people are realizing they're not able to keep them all far after getting attached to them. If you hatch quail, you will end up with 50% males. If you...
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    CC's Big List of Coturnix Quail Studies

    Disclaimer: there are so so many of these. If you're interested in working with a specific gene, please google it along with "research" or "study" and chances are you will find way more information. If you find something great I missed, please post it! Let me know if any links go down and if...
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    Japanese Coturnix for sale in Northern CA - 8+ rare colors

    Full list of colors/patterns available includes: golden italian, golden layer, silver/blue, charcoal, falb fee, tibetan, roux dilute, rosetta lacing, partial tuxedos, white primaries, and various combinations of the above. Pearl-fee, snowie, lavender, curly-feathered, and celadon layers coming...
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    February Hatch Results

    I will have a couple of stragglers to add later, but here is the majority of the results from my first February hatch. First, my shipped eggs. I only got one "normal" pharoah in the whole batch so he is in this picture and then used as a reference for all the other colored ones. I believe the...
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    I'm Not Letting Chicken Envy Get Me Down

    I can't have chickens where I am right now and I love showing anything I'm involved with - it's an amazing learning opportunity. I am trying to make it work with my arctic-guppy-chickens (a.k.a. japanese coturnix quail) and have run into the following dizzying array of issues: 1. Most all...
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    Need some emotional support for putting my birds back outside :(

    I have a lot of trouble relating to a lot of the advice and experiences shared here because my worst predator is one 99% of people live out range of, and that most deterrents like a well-built coop or cage are simply ineffective against. Two months ago I lost every single one of my 22 adult...
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    Northern CA meat swap?

    I'm floating this tentatively as I'm still making sure it wouldn't invite any heat legally, but would anyone who raises their poultry partially for meat be interested in setting up an informal swap of some sorts just for variety? I can produce quail out my ears but unfortunately that's all I'm...
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    WYSIWYG golden Italian Coturnix breeding pairs - Northern CA

    Japanese Coturnix quail pairs, 5 weeks old and extremely healthy. All hatched and raised here by me with ancestors from at least two distinct genetic sources. I'd prefer they go to breeding/laying homes over the BBQ and their price reflects that, but that might change when I need the space more...
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    What I was afraid of...

    A few weeks ago I had an ordered box of eggs that accidentally got left out overnight in freezing temps because the seller forgot to update tracking information. I agreed to set them anyways and hope for the best. I was ecstatic yesterday to see half a dozen pips! Well, the first chick...
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