➡ Quail Hatch Along🥚

[Kiki]

That is the ONLY thing DE is good for. Grain mites...and that is why some companies put it in their feed. To help keep bugs away.

 

[mixedUPturk]

@CoturnixComplex did you say 17grams on a quail eggs? This is huge! Is this from a Jumbo?
I again lost two quail yesterday from a dog attack.. my only Pharaoh hen and a white Jumbo male whose body I still cannot find anywhere in the garden After the first attack we made sure the dog is properly punished and kept closed, but yesterday he opened both his door and the quail cages.. argh.

I get ginormous eggs too. The largest was 21 grams and the norm around here isnt calculated recently but was 14 gs last i checked around 2 months ago. Smallest egg i could find in 50 was 10gs.

 

[CoturnixComplex]

I get ginormous eggs too. The largest was 21 grams and the norm around here isnt calculated recently but was 14 gs last i checked around 2 months ago. Smallest egg i could find in 50 was 10gs.

Was the 21g double yolk or normal? I feel like double yolks have to be a separate category. I think I have gotten whoppers too counting those. That is HUUUUGE for a normal one!

I know I have gotten teeeeeeeeeeeny weeny ones. I need to weigh them but I bet my gorgeous blue female lays ~8g eggs.

 

[mixedUPturk]

Was the 21g double yolk or normal? I feel like double yolks have to be a separate category. I think I have gotten whoppers too counting those. That is HUUUUGE for a normal one!

I know I have gotten teeeeeeeeeeeny weeny ones. I need to weigh them but I bet my gorgeous blue female lays ~8g eggs.

Yes ma'am that was a double and your right they should be a seperate category. Usually at 18gs and over theyre doubles. The smallest i ever got was 2gs, it had no yolk fart egg was so cute i blew it out an saved it.

These are all singles. It was the last time i averaged em out. Mid july.

Now ive gotten a handful of these. Some i blew out, some i ate. Double yolk.

Diff 18 g egg

 

[ShrekDawg]

I really like making my fancy critter breeding projects way too involved and complex, to the point that I never finish them because it would take decades. When it was fish it was alpha sailfin lyretail swordtails. With bunnies it is broken blue rex-coated mandolin semi-giants. Now I am also dreaming of jumbo curly-feathered celadon auto-sexing roux-charcoal quail.

@James Marie did a great write-up on fb I liked that addressed this and other breeding considerations that I would love him to post here (I would've commented straight on it, Robbie, but I don't have a fb! It is great. I feel like there's a marked lack in detailed, quail-specific breeding advice out there compared to other critters and I'm thrilled with everyone helping to change that).

Like I said to Turk earlier, I have acquired a lot of breeding techniques over the decades (that can't be true) I've been breeding critters, but I've always had too much species ADD to ever really accomplish much other than multiplying neat things and passing them along. Which can still be great - propagating endangered bettas was amazing! - but making it to the 3rd and 4th generation in a project and seeing consistent improvement is really satisfying.

I feel like I will probably breed quail and rabbits as long as we live here or somewhere similar. But, not going to lie - we ever get real land they are most likely going to get phased out for ducks and goats and teeny tiny cows.

Wow those are complicated goals!!

Love that phrase though.... species ADD. I totally have that too.

And I want all those animals eventually too! except maybe cows. Idk yet. And add in sheep, horses, and chickens and basically the same thing lol

Are you planning on dogs too?

Oh and decades? Plural??

I'm like an old person at heart and don't have a fb anymore and never remember youtube is a thing. But I need to watch more! My partner is the youtube dude; maybe I will make him watch quail videos with me in the mornings.

Oh good, give me more egg weights. I know Kiki's good about it too; I must go hunt among her posts also.

Old person at heart or actual old person?

I did not think of this. Do you think it would take weeks though or would a day or two be long enough?

I really don't want to mess with having to return them today only to get more bag with bugs. The whole lot of bags probably all have them, I think.

So I'm wondering if I should just buy some DE??

I think it takes a couple weeks at least to really be sure but idk. I know they say with game meat and stuff I think you’re supposed to freeze it two weeks to kill parasites so idk if it’s the same. And that might not be applicable to humans with cooking the meat, that might only be applicable if you’re raw feeding your animal, I don’t remember lol

And shocking!

But I say do it.

X2 lol

That is the ONLY thing DE is good for. Grain mites...and that is why some companies put it in their feed. To help keep bugs away.

I say do it!

I also sometimes put it in the nest boxes to keep notes and such out of there but I haven’t used DE in a while. I admit I used to be guilty of dousing the old coop and run in it.

 

[muddy75]

i’m still sorting and putting in cartons hundreds of eggs in the outdoor fridge so should be able to accumulate lots of data by the end of the day......(especially once it starts raining). BUT i have no idea which eggs come from which hens overall......but i do know that many of the homegrown eggs I’ve set this summer were 10-20g and I haven’t actually opened a double yet..... some lately have extremely pointed small ends.....was considering trying to mark to see if theory holds true that they hatch male.....

 

[mixedUPturk]

My step father in law and step brother in law are some of those who think DE kills internal parasites theyve each given me some here and there. Told them how its strip mined so i wont buy it and told them how controversial the topic is-- proven neither way. Was hard not to get into it w SFIL hes argumentative but i finally made him understand i was middle ground. I feel like it has its minimal uses, period.

i’m still sorting and putting in cartons hundreds of eggs in the outdoor fridge so should be able to accumulate lots of data by the end of the day......(especially once it starts raining). BUT i have no idea which eggs come from which hens overall......but i do know that many of the homegrown eggs I’ve set this summer were 10-20g and I haven’t actually opened a double yet..... some lately have extremely pointed small ends.....was considering trying to mark to see if theory holds true that they hatch male.....

not getting into that discussion again ive got a friend ive had it with Alot recently. Jus gonna say the hatcheries wouldve figured that out if they could so they stop getting the bad publicity of grinding up extra male hatchlings. Be glad to hear your weight findings across the myshire eggs though.

 

[Maiahr]

@mixedUPturk are these large eggs from Jumboes or Tuxedos?
@CoturnixComplex so your layers for large eggs are a mix of Jumbo and non-jumbo (Charcoal is not a Jumbo,right)

 

[ShrekDawg]

@mixedUPturk I admit I used to believe it worked for internal parasites.

Or at least prevented them and/or was good for humans to drink for health too

I was young/new and dumb lol

Anyway, one day my dad mentioned that it’s very wet in the digestive system so how would DE work? Once it gets wet it would be useless.... since it’s supposed to work by drying them out/being sharp. I was like I.... uhhh....



Still used it in the coop and run for a while but then I realized it was way too dusty and also killed good bugs in the run too so I stopped.

Never knew it was strip mined though. Glad I stopped.

 

[mixedUPturk]

@mixedUPturk are these large eggs from Jumboes or Tuxedos?
@CoturnixComplex so your layers for large eggs are a mix of Jumbo and non-jumbo (Charcoal is not a Jumbo,right)

It is my understanding that tuxedo is a pattern that can be found across all colors so im not sure if your referring to a single line out there or the color pattern as a whole. I also understand our American birds to be watered down versions of the quail (was explained to me to be hatchery quailty rhode island red chickens vs herritage breeder bred) that are on your side of the pond so i am very interested in learning more about what you have. I have a completely crazy flock there are 5 jumbo wild types who i bred thru a silver roo and are smaller than their mother. Then there are a unique collection box who i hatched 20some odd of the hens from. Wasnt by design, but i wanted the silver hatch who are a pen of their own and used the wild type hens to relieve the smaller ratios than i prefer. Each time i hatch i am building on the number of each of the specfic colored things i want to work with selling and eating the things that dont conform So those eggs came from a collection of neither specifically jumbos nor tuxedos. There are a few of each out there but the regularly large eggs couldve come from anything. I have an easier time saying i know i regularly get a smallish egg from my Tibetan roos pen and i regularly get a smallish egg from my german Cream roo's pen.