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[Kiki]

The 75 is good for now.
Are they in it yet?

 

[CarpCharacin]

for now

That's the key.

 

[muddy75]

The Apple version of the app has a few issues... So if it starts to act silly go back to using the browser.

i’ve been using the apple version of byc on my ipad for months and no real problems....yet

 

[ShrekDawg]

Common / comet goldfish aren't the same as fancy goldfish. 30 gallons is too small for a single common goldfish permanently, IMO. Additionally, the rated capacity doesn't mean that much, especially with more messy fish, your filtration should have at least double the rated capacity for that tank size. Why don't you build a pond that's deep enough so you can keep them in it year round?

That number was for comets. The fancy one said 20 for the first and 10 for each additional.

And yeah I think a 30 is too small for them permanently too but I was just saying 75 for 4 really is not that small compared to the alternative and I don’t think it’s so black and white.

It’s also not permanently. It’s only for the winter.

And okay, should I buy a second filter then?

Or put the two 20s I have in there? Don’t really wanna buy another filter when I just bought this one and the tank so would adding the two other ones I have work?

And I want to and plan to but it’s not that simple. It’s expensive and I also can’t put them outside now anyway. I thought you weren’t supposed to put them outside in fall/winter? Don’t they need time to adjust to the cooler temps? So I can’t exactly just stick them in the ground right now.

 

[ShrekDawg]

The 75 is good for now.
Are they in it yet?

It’s only going to be used for winters.

And no not yet. The filter only just got here today.

That's the key.

I think even at full adult size it is really not that bad for a couple months in winter and getting to spend the whole rest of the year in a big pond outside....

I could have just kept them in the 20 all winter like I was originally planning to until I built the pond in spring but I decided that was a little cruel and spent the money to buy them a bigger tank instead of keeping them in there and saving the money.

 

[CarpCharacin]

That number was for comets. The fancy one said 20 for the first and 10 for each additional.

And yeah I think a 30 is too small for them permanently too but I was just saying 75 for 4 really is not that small compared to the alternative and I don’t think it’s so black and white.

It’s also not permanently. It’s only for the winter.

And okay, should I buy a second filter then?

Or put the two 20s I have in there? Don’t really wanna buy another filter when I just bought this one and the tank so would adding the two other ones I have work?

And I want to and plan to but it’s not that simple. It’s expensive and I also can’t put them outside now anyway. I thought you weren’t supposed to put them outside in fall/winter? Don’t they need time to adjust to the cooler temps? So I can’t exactly just stick them in the ground right now.

There's a lot of misinformation out there about keeping fish.

How powerful are your other filters?

I'm not saying you should put them out there this winter. Just build a pond that is deep enough so you can keep them outside in the winter. I've kept goldfish and koi outside in my pond for several winters, you just stop feeding them in the fall, and then start feeding them in the spring. The cold water slows their metabolism.

 

[muddy75]

That number was for comets. The fancy one said 20 for the first and 10 for each additional.

And yeah I think a 30 is too small for them permanently too but I was just saying 75 for 4 really is not that small compared to the alternative and I don’t think it’s so black and white.

It’s also not permanently. It’s only for the winter.

And okay, should I buy a second filter then?

Or put the two 20s I have in there? Don’t really wanna buy another filter when I just bought this one and the tank so would adding the two other ones I have work?

And I want to and plan to but it’s not that simple. It’s expensive and I also can’t put them outside now anyway. I thought you weren’t supposed to put them outside in fall/winter? Don’t they need time to adjust to the cooler temps? So I can’t exactly just stick them in the ground right now.

the ideal number is 10 gal per inch of fish, BUT that can be difficult in your situation....so i agree the 75 gallon is much better for them temporarily through winter until you can get them a pond built in the spring! i’m currently at estimated 40” fish in a 300 gallon but they seem happy and healthy so i’m waiting to make a decision in the spring as to expansion or re-homing.

 

[ShrekDawg]

There's a lot of misinformation out there about keeping fish.

How powerful are your other filters?

I'm not saying you should put them out there this winter. Just build a pond that is deep enough so you can keep them outside in the winter. I've kept goldfish and koi outside in my pond for several winters, you just stop feeding them in the fall, and then start feeding them in the spring. The cold water slows their metabolism.

That’s true but I figured it’s still better than the ones saying a bowl is fine ha

Although thankfully I don’t really see those ones anymore.

But these ones will have almost 30 gallons per fish which is way more than they have right now.

And I’m not sure. Ones kind of a junky Tetra power filter or some such and the other I just bought.

These are the two I just bought.

I also have my pond filter I bought but I figured that was a bit of overkill for a 75 haha

And oh okay. I thought you were asking why I don’t put them out now ha whoops

I’ll try to do that if I can but I’m not sure if I’ll be able to. Depends how big of a pond we end up making because to make it an extra foot or two deeper will cost that much more for the liner cost/a bigger liner so we’ll see.

 

[CarpCharacin]

You should get a second one of the larger filters for the 75.

 

[CindyinSD]

That’s funny. I can actually drink a hot cup of coffee and 30 minutes later be fast asleep my wife on the other hand if she has a cup of black tea an hour before bed and she is up for hours

A lot of the caffeine response depends on how much body weight the person has and on how fast the caffeine is broken down. As you get older you’ll likely find you have a longer window of response to caffeine. I used to be like you. Now I’m old. No caffeine for me after 1:00 p.m.