➡ Quail Hatch Along🥚

[CayugaJana]

@007Sean how many/types of eggs do you have in the incubator?

Also, anyone ever clipped their birds beaks? And if so what has been your experience?

I put the adults with the juveniles today. And one juvenile has died. I think it was one who hasn’t been right from the start. For the last week I’ve noticed it looking to the side, going in circles, and it looks like a bobble head. It would eat and drink but something wasn’t right with it. It was kind of a bad day for the quail. I left the gate unlatched and my dog ate one.
The sickly one got killed by the other quail, my cat got one that escaped, and my other dog got one. They ran out of the gate and went under my deck where I couldn’t reach. And the idiots decided to come out of the deck when the dogs were outside. I hate it but when I yelled at them and told them to follow me back into the pen or they were likely going to get ate, they didn’t listen. Oh and a hawk tried to scoop down into their pen while I was in it!!! Right next to me! Luckily it smacked into the bird netting and went on. Sucky day for them but it was over 60 out today and sunny. So it was beautiful and good to be outside instead of cooped up.

 

[CoturnixComplex]

We are up to 4 turkeys now, waiting for the last two

She's still waiting on the eggs from me too, the jerks wouldn't come out to say hello when I was there on their due date and everything!

We just finished processing rabbits and I have weird organ photos to send you @Texas Kiki

@007Sean how many/types of eggs do you have in the incubator?

Also, anyone ever clipped their birds beaks? And if so what has been your experience?

I put the adults with the juveniles today. And one juvenile has died. I think it was one who hasn’t been right from the start. For the last week I’ve noticed it looking to the side, going in circles, and it looks like a bobble head. It would eat and drink but something wasn’t right with it. It was kind of a bad day for the quail. I left the gate unlatched and my dog ate one.
The sickly one got killed by the other quail, my cat got one that escaped, and my other dog got one. They ran out of the gate and went under my deck where I couldn’t reach. And the idiots decided to come out of the deck when the dogs were outside. I hate it but when I yelled at them and told them to follow me back into the pen or they were likely going to get ate, they didn’t listen. Oh and a hawk tried to scoop down into their pen while I was in it!!! Right next to me! Luckily it smacked into the bird netting and went on. Sucky day for them but it was over 60 out today and sunny. So it was beautiful and good to be outside instead of cooped up.

No! Rotten day, I am sorry. One downside to keeping them outdoors Still worth it I would imagine!

I hope someone else chimes in about the beak. I have a juvenile who's not wearing hers down properly either.

 

[007Sean]

@007Sean how many/types of eggs do you have in the incubator?

Also, anyone ever clipped their birds beaks? And if so what has been your experience?

I put the adults with the juveniles today. And one juvenile has died. I think it was one who hasn’t been right from the start. For the last week I’ve noticed it looking to the side, going in circles, and it looks like a bobble head. It would eat and drink but something wasn’t right with it. It was kind of a bad day for the quail. I left the gate unlatched and my dog ate one.
The sickly one got killed by the other quail, my cat got one that escaped, and my other dog got one. They ran out of the gate and went under my deck where I couldn’t reach. And the idiots decided to come out of the deck when the dogs were outside. I hate it but when I yelled at them and told them to follow me back into the pen or they were likely going to get ate, they didn’t listen. Oh and a hawk tried to scoop down into their pen while I was in it!!! Right next to me! Luckily it smacked into the bird netting and went on. Sucky day for them but it was over 60 out today and sunny. So it was beautiful and good to be outside instead of cooped up.

I don't have any eggs incubating right now, but probably next week or the next, I'll have around 20 different species of pheasant eggs in the bator.
My True pheasants started laying a week and a half ago, my Goldens started laying today.
I like to wait a week or two after they have started laying before I attempt to check fertility.
My quail haven't started to lay, yet...probably won't until May.

 

[BullChick]

Also, anyone ever clipped their birds beaks? And if so what has been your experience?

I’ve trimmed a beak with toenail clippers. I only cut her once. She didn’t like the dremel tool, so I didn’t try it again.

 

[007Sean]

would partridge do ok with pheasant and/or pheasant with quail? pheasant ratio of 1 male to 3 hens better? approximately 10 quail and ?#partridge per month would be meatbirds. since i’m still in initial planning I can rethink numbers and types of birds, but not wanting to separate the aviary as it will be a semi-permanent structure that could be removed if we were to sell the house. aggressive birds could be deported to chicken area until sent to freezer camp! i’m going to be reducing my chickens to my 4 silkies, max of 6 standard layers and possibly a couple of my silkie cross chicks.

Personally, I don't mix the different species of birds I have with any other birds. There are peeps that do and claim they have no problems but they don't tell you about the birds they have lost and the problems they have had due to the mixing of the different birds....an ego thing!
The only way I have been able to have a mixed aviary, is to have a huge enclosure and have only males of the various species together and absolutely no hens near that pen.
I've run quail with pheasants but eventually they had quarrels and it didn't work out. The only birds I have had in a community pen that worked, were pheasants (Goldens and Amherst) and peafowl. No True pheasants and peafowl will work...male True pheasants are just to aggressive and will fight eachother and the peafowl. Also, the Goldens ran the peafowl crazy during breeding season...the goldens are constantly running around displaying, running underneath the peafowl, flying all around for no reason, etc...upsetting the peafowl to no end. It disrupted the peafowl hens and they didn't lay very well.

The different gamebirds require different habitats from one another. It's difficult to provide the required habitat for 2 separate or more species of birds in a one in all encompassing enclosure.
With the ornamental's (Goldens, Amherst) a ratio of 1 male to 5 or 6 hens works well.
My experinces with all the gamebirds I have raised, is to have seperate enclosures for the different species. It's what has worked best for me. Your experince with a community enclosure may and probably will differ from my experinces.
I would just hate for you to try it and lose birds and become frustrated and give up on raising those birds.

 

[Sara L]

All turkeys have hatched! The egg we thought was from the slate hen must have been from the bourbon red, she must have laid two in one day, all the babies have the same pattern.

 

[007Sean]

All turkeys have hatched! The egg we thought was from the slate hen must have been from the bourbon red, she must have laid two in one day, all the babies have the same pattern.
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Birds can not lay 2 eggs in a 24 hour period. It takes 24 to 28 hours for an egg once released to go through the reproductive tract of the bird and finally being layed.
The reason alot of peeps think that they have layed 2 eggs in one day is because they have the ability to delay laying the egg, sometimes because of stress, illness or a life or death matter for the bird. This is why sometimes double yolks appear and why sometimes it appears the bird didn't lay an egg on a particular day and 2 the next.
BTW, cute chicks!

ETA - Went and looked this article up for you, so you'll know I'm not just blowing smoke!
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=13&ved=2ahUKEwiSpJzArK7hAhVDSq0KHQANBLIQFjAMegQIABAB&url=https://www.wideopenpets.com/everything-need-know-chicken-lays-eggs/&usg=AOvVaw1_Tr5zlFBdtQPTS7bpzMBf

Found another one you may find interesting.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...systemfemale&usg=AOvVaw2VXga0b0PQ5XxcP2pN1xsj

 

[CayugaJana]

All turkeys have hatched! The egg we thought was from the slate hen must have been from the bourbon red, she must have laid two in one day, all the babies have the same pattern.
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Do you plan to keep them as pets or for food? What color do they wind up being?

Birds can not lay 2 eggs in a 24 hour period. It takes 24 to 28 hours for an egg once released to go through the reproductive tract of the bird and finally being layed.
The reason alot of peeps think that they have layed 2 eggs in one day is because they have the ability to delay laying the egg, sometimes because of stress, illness or a life or death matter for the bird. This is why sometimes double yolks appear and why sometimes it appears the bird didn't lay an egg on a particular day and 2 the next.
BTW, cute chicks!

ETA - Went and looked this article up for you, so you'll know I'm not just blowing smoke!
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=13&ved=2ahUKEwiSpJzArK7hAhVDSq0KHQANBLIQFjAMegQIABAB&url=https://www.wideopenpets.com/everything-need-know-chicken-lays-eggs/&usg=AOvVaw1_Tr5zlFBdtQPTS7bpzMBf

Found another one you may find interesting.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=22&ved=2ahUKEwi8_6rusK7hAhUGDKwKHbgjCcYQFjAVegQIABAB&url=https://articles.extension.org/pages/65372/avian-reproductive-systemfemale&usg=AOvVaw2VXga0b0PQ5XxcP2pN1xsj

I’m a little bit confused. Do you mean a hen doesn’t have the ability to produce more than 1 egg in a 24 hour period or lay more than 1 egg in a 24 hour period? I think what you are saying is it takes so long to make an egg that they can’t produce more than one egg a day. But they can delay actually laying it because of stress or outside factors. So they could lay 2 eggs in a 24 hour period but they were made in the hen on different days? Yes?

 

[R2elk]

Birds can not lay 2 eggs in a 24 hour period. It takes 24 to 28 hours for an egg once released to go through the reproductive tract of the bird and finally being laid.
The reason a lot of peeps think that they have laid 2 eggs in one day is because they have the ability to delay laying the egg, sometimes because of stress, illness or a life or death matter for the bird. This is why sometimes double yolks appear and why sometimes it appears the bird didn't lay an egg on a particular day and 2 the next.
BTW, cute chicks!

ETA - Went and looked this article up for you, so you'll know I'm not just blowing smoke!
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=13&ved=2ahUKEwiSpJzArK7hAhVDSq0KHQANBLIQFjAMegQIABAB&url=https://www.wideopenpets.com/everything-need-know-chicken-lays-eggs/&usg=AOvVaw1_Tr5zlFBdtQPTS7bpzMBf

Found another one you may find interesting.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=22&ved=2ahUKEwi8_6rusK7hAhUGDKwKHbgjCcYQFjAVegQIABAB&url=https://articles.extension.org/pages/65372/avian-reproductive-systemfemale&usg=AOvVaw2VXga0b0PQ5XxcP2pN1xsj

There are almost always exceptions to every rule. My uncle many years ago had a White Leghorn that laid two perfectly formed eggs every day. She laid them practically 12 hours apart. Unfortunately he never determined which hen it was and when they randomly grabbed birds for processing, she was one of them which ended her run of laying two eggs daily.

I personally had a mixed breed hen that did not adhere to the 24 hour claim. Her first year of laying, she laid an egg every day for 27 days straight. She laid her first egg in the afternoon and every day following that she would lay her egg 23 hours and 45 minutes later or in other terms 15 minutes earlier than the day before. She never got to the point where she would have laid 2 eggs on the same calendar day because once she reached the point of laying at dawn she stopped laying in fewer than 24 hours.

 

[muddy75]

Personally, I don't mix the different species of birds I have with any other birds. There are peeps that do and claim they have no problems but they don't tell you about the birds they have lost and the problems they have had due to the mixing of the different birds....an ego thing!
The only way I have been able to have a mixed aviary, is to have a huge enclosure and have only males of the various species together and absolutely no hens near that pen.
I've run quail with pheasants but eventually they had quarrels and it didn't work out. The only birds I have had in a community pen that worked, were pheasants (Goldens and Amherst) and peafowl. No True pheasants and peafowl will work...male True pheasants are just to aggressive and will fight eachother and the peafowl. Also, the Goldens ran the peafowl crazy during breeding season...the goldens are constantly running around displaying, running underneath the peafowl, flying all around for no reason, etc...upsetting the peafowl to no end. It disrupted the peafowl hens and they didn't lay very well.

The different gamebirds require different habitats from one another. It's difficult to provide the required habitat for 2 separate or more species of birds in a one in all encompassing enclosure.
With the ornamental's (Goldens, Amherst) a ratio of 1 male to 5 or 6 hens works well.
My experinces with all the gamebirds I have raised, is to have seperate enclosures for the different species. It's what has worked best for me. Your experince with a community enclosure may and probably will differ from my experinces.
I would just hate for you to try it and lose birds and become frustrated and give up on raising those birds.

thanks so much for your insight!! i think I will just stick with the quail for this year and re-evaluate the situation from there!!