➡I accidentally bought Balut eggs: 2 live ducks! Now a Chat Thread!

Forgive me if you already got great help, I didn't read past this message yet.

I've just recently finished the latest integration. I did shared range time and waited for the signs. Mingling and sharing water are good. Put a feeder (chick feed) out to share and see if they will share food. That's a major hurdle for some hens.

There is always a chicken or two that acts like your Orpington. It isn't their individual personality, the meanies here this time aren't even the same birds as last time (and those previous meanie hens are still here). It's whichever hens are at the bottom of the pecking order that feel the need to assert their position over the littles.

Everything will eventually simmer down. As long as no blood is being drawn, it's normal pecking order behavior. That doesn't make it easy to watch but it is a part of the process.

I put perches in the run. The youngsters especially go up for quiet time. I also installed an outdoor feeder right in the middle of the run because the littles were being chased if they were spotted "invading" the coop and that meant they couldn't eat freely. EVERYONE likes the outdoor feeder so that enabled the eating together step.

Then comes roosting together. The previous batch of chicks followed their brave leader to the adult roosts when I had everyone shut in the adult run until sunset. That was the easiest transition!

This batch, I had a deadline to meet so I had to push the last bit along. I left them until sunset and when they didn't go where they should, I put them there. Repeat. Note to self, deadlines suck. Get chicks in years we don't travel for both spring break and the end of the school year...

Good news is that they still managed even with a stiff arm push toward maturity.

I hope that you will remember the sunscreen next time.

My dad is in remission from Merkel cell carcinoma and since he has what they call an occult source (they didn't find the skin lesion, only the affected lymph node), he has a pretty high probability that it will eventually recur with a vengeance.

My kids are learning better habits than what I was raised with. Sunscreen every time and I buy the stuff with a physical barrier in it (zinc oxide or titanium dioxide) because that was what the dermatologist recommended.

I just grabbed the sunscreen bottle we used on vacation. This one is "Banana Boat SPF50 Kids Sport". Active ingredients are 4.5% titanium dioxide, 6.5% zinc oxide. We like this kind. The No-Ad version kinda sucks from an application standpoint so I spent a little more for the one we like.

Most of the physical barrier ones are labeled for babies or kids but seeing baby or kid on the label doesn't mean they aren't the all chemical kind. You have to check the ingredients. It's annoying because the packages often look VERY SIMILAR.

Thank you very much!! This is all very helpful!! Both the chicken stuff and the sunscreen stuff!! That is scary about your dad!! Hopefully he stays in remission!! I’ll definitely remember sunscreen next time. I usually actually probably put wayyyy too much on and reapply a lot but I just didn’t really think of it cause it was just a food truck festival/craft thing so I didn’t think we’d be there that long or that it would be bad. I usually remember like for the beach or boat or outdoor music festivals but figured for the food thing there’d be shade or that we wouldn’t be there that long. There was shade but also a lot of sun. I think the worst part was probably the standing in line. I think that may have done it because my back was to the sun most of the time we were there and I was just kind of standing still or moving very slowly. But it could have been any point really. Next time I will definitely try to remember sunscreen and I will try to buy that kind. Thank you.

As for the chickens, I actually cut a hole in the divider yesterday evening as they all seemed to be doing fine. Discovered this morning one of the bigs can fit through it though! The mean one. :th :eek: but it’s okay. She doesn’t go chasing them in there and she is the smallest big anyway so no one else can fit so it’s okay. Yesterday they were all out mingling but then this morning they hadn’t come outside yet lol they’re still a little scared. But I let them free range together again yesterday evening and then locked them in the run together since they were all in there anyways so I tested it and locked them in before I cut the portal and everything was fine. The bully did chase them a couple times but not nearly as much. I think because she had just been bullied away from some scratch and put in her place lol cause when they’re free ranging she is often by herself and feels like the big honcho but when they’re all together, the other bigs reminded her that she is NOT. LOL and the other bigs were all fine with them. Even let them stand in the food bowl lol even my Australorp who is usually a pig with food went to go eat and one was in the bowl and she just let her and walked away lol so they are all fine except the bully. Then later at bedtime the littles were outside in the run screaming their heads off cause they couldn’t figure out how to get back to their area even though the bigs had just gone in and they saw them and the littles also had no troubles with the ramp earlier. So I went out and opened the back door of the coop and called them and in they ran lol and then one of them (my boldest little one) jumped right up on the low roost (we have roost bars but most of the girls sleep in the rafters so the little was on the actual roost). Then another one jumped up with her. But then the first chicken “chickened out” pardon the corny metaphor lol but that one went back to the baby roost with her sisters and the one that jumped up second stayed and in fact went high up. She’s so funny, at first she flew into the window, she thought she could perch up there lol then she found the low roost then she flew up and found the eaves and was just perching on the top of the wall then she found the rafters right above that and flew there but then she flew to one closer to her sisters that the bigs can’t fit on with the divider up and then she was pacing back and forth on the wall and the big girl roosts at first, I think she wanted to go back with her sisters but couldn’t figure out how to get down, but anyway, then she ended up back on the big girl roost way up high on the rafters and settled in. And the big girls just did nothing and let her. And even when they first were on the low roost, both Orpingtons were also on a low roost but on the one behind hers so I thought for sure that they would fly forward and chase her off and be mean since they weren’t that far away and one of the Orps is the mean one (the other one doesn’t care). But nope. They totally left them alone. Much to my surprise. Lol even my Barred Rock who was in the nest boxes when I went out there and so was just getting on the roosts with them was fine. Rooster right next to them ha but of course like I said one went back to he baby roost lol and actually they all were until I went out there with a flashlight lol and then today they mostly stayed on their half and didn’t even venture out lol poor things. I am sure they will get there on their own time. I want to place them on the big girl roost tonight and/or take out the little roost or even the divider but I don’t wanna rush things haha I want them to do it when they’re ready. And I also do want them to have a safe zone. But they’ve also been out there since they were just over a week old (8 days old, put them out the day after they turned a week old) and they turned 6 weeks old today. So they should be plenty old enough and big enough. I wanted to have them mingle with the portal at 3 weeks old and be fully integrated by 4 weeks but then I again “chickened out” LOL they just seemed soooo small. But now they are huge. Well still seem a little small to me. But probably plenty old enough to integrate? And they have been next to each other for 5 weeks and free ranged together like 4 or 5 times over the last like week. So they should be okay?? Idk. Makes me nervous still lol
 
Put the littles permanently with the bigs yesterday. Sort of. They still have a divider but I cut a hole in it.

Let them free range together again yesterday and then since they were all in the run anyway, I locked them in there together with the bigs and watched before I cut the hole. Everything seemed to be going okay so I did it.

A couple chase attempts by the meanie but the others all ignored them and even let them climb in the food bowl. Even my piggie Australorp went to eat and then a little was in the bowl so she walked away much to my shock lol and this was with new food too cause I put the grower in there. Though they had gotten their fill before I let the littles in but still. Thought she would defend it but no.

And last night the leghorn went on the low roost then the Easter egger joined her. But then the Leghorn chickened out (sorry for that corny unintentional pun lol can’t think of a better phrase) and jumped back down and ran back with the littles to the baby roost lol but the EE stayed and even flew up to the top of the wall!! Then found the rafters and settled. But then she heard her sisters calling, flew to a closer roost above them, and was kind of pacing along the walls and the roost cause she couldn’t figure out how to get down. But she finally decided to just stay and went back to the roost and stayed and the bigs let her!! She stayed all night! The others were huddled together behind the baby roost not even on it ha I’m surprised the leghorn backed out as she’s usually my bold feisty one. Maybe tonight.

It’s funny too though because today they haven’t gone outside yet. Or barely. Yesterday they were all mingling. Today they have been staying inside. BUT. They have been venturing into the rest of the coop outside their zone and checking all that out first and hanging out in there in all the new space while the bigs hang out outside so maybe they will get brave enough eventually and venture outside lol hopefully.

But things seem to be going well so far. Probably mostly cause they are staying separated still. :lau maybe with time they will mingle more ha

But it’s funny too cause the meanie seems less mean locked up than she does free ranging I think because the other hens boss her around and put her in her place whereas when she is outside she is often by herself and the big honcho lol they show her she is not. :lau

Some pics.

Also sorry again for the novel and because I think I just said most of this but idk but yeah. :oops:

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Puckers wants to take a shower too!

Is CJ's knee doing ok?

Are y'all camping out in the new house tonight!?!?? Do it!
Lol.
Cj is being very good. She's keeping her brace on & not walking much. We go back next Thursday to see how it's healing and hopefully start physio.

We haven't camped in the house. Final inspection will hopefully be tomorrow. Then I'll get to work on finishing the floors so that we can move in. :wee
 
Forced the littles onto the big girl roost tonight which I kind of felt bad about but they have to learn at some point.

Was a bit of an ordeal/process though. LOL

When I checked on them none of them were on them; they were all on the baby roost. And there were also bigs on both the lower roosts including Angel aka Meanie and not quite living up to her actual name lately :lol: on the roost closest to them and two others on the one behind that.

So idk if Meanie just wouldn’t let them up or if they are still just scared/unaware of these roosts or what but I pushed Meanie off (which I also felt bad about... she kinda fell off and then gave up and went to the nestboxes instead but I didn’t want her attacking littles) and then put the littles up there one by one.

Then I tried to give Meanie a chance to get back up on a roost. Went over to the nest box she was in and shined the flashlight up on a roost bar, the low one with the other bigs. She took forever to even decide to go up there but she did finally try and was in the air a while but kinda crashed back down. I think maybe the others wouldn’t let her on their roost. She gave up and went back to the nestbox.

Meanwhile in this chaos 3 littles had jumped ship and were running around freaking out. Scooped them up and put them back up there. This time they settled in but one took a particularly long time to catch and kept running out of reach. Finally caught her though and put her up there. She settled too.

Then I thought I would try to get Meanie up on the roost through the pop door so I picked her up from the nest box, carried her around to the run, unlocked it, opened the gate, walked in, went to the pop door, then realized I really couldn’t reach the roosts from this door after all, walked back out, tried to figure out what to do. Felt bad just making her sleep in the nest box all night when I’m the one that pushed her off.

So I decided to just try her with the littles and see how she does. It was a risk but I figured, it’s really dark, pretty late, she’s tired and a little confused from me shoving her off then carrying her around and just wants to go to sleep, so maybe she will be fine.

So I put her up right in between the littles (they had split up and settled some on each end) and waited a little bit, watching in the dark. It seemed to go okay. She kind of turned around a few times and scooched close to them, thought she’d peck them to make them move but she didn’t. The littles were a little disturbed by all this but settled in again and I think Angel just wanted to be close to other chickens. Anyway, she settled in and I just checked again a little while ago they were all snuggled in. :love

Well, I disturbed them by opening the door. Really need to get a coop camera lol but she was surprisingly nice.

Actually, May my Barred Rock was Miss Meanie tonight!! Sweetpea walked across the roost frame/wall to get to the other roost, and thought she’d try to snuggle in next to May, May pecked her!! Sweetpea tried again, another peck! Sweetpea retreated and walked back to her own family lol poor thing. :(

Hopefully May will be more accepting eventually and maybe now that they have roosted together they’ll be one big family tomorrow. :fl

It was so cute though, two of the chicks settled on the very ends, laying right on top of the 2x4, all snuggled up against the wall. :love

And I am thinking tomorrow will be roost/coop cleaning day. Or at least just roost cleaning. :lau :oops:

And sorry for yet another novel. :oops:

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Short novel...
Hubby had a dr appt today.
Took care of the babies before we left for his appt.
Met his siblings for lunch after.
Moved eggs to the hatcher...due the 12th.
Then I actually took a two hour nap.
Sprayed the edging around the flower beds with weed killer.
Took care of all the birds...feeding and cooping.
Then set another tray of eggs....for a final hatch July 1.
Quick dinner.
Read KD's chicken novels...cute.
And now I'm going to bed.
 

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