600 billion$ VS Your $; y'all'd best be planning a garden for spring

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I just bought paint at the dollar store - regular/cheap indoor/outdoor spray paint.

I also used 4x4s for corners of my bed boxes cut to the same length as the boards in case I want to move them someday and the lumber was scrap lumber or reject boards from the renovation that was going on at our home. There was already a huge pile of garden soil that some prior owner had dumped in our front pasture which had grown grass and weeds but I just dug it up and hauled it to my garden and mixed it with chicken coop and stable cleanouts and old barn floor diggings (the old barn is 100 years old and hadn't been used since the early 70s but still had hay in the storage lofts and wonderfully broken down hay/manure on floor. So, I did my garden for pretty cheap. I also pulled up old beams and posts that were used in old fencing and lined the fence with that to make a border and filled that. I grow all climbing vines on that - cucumbers, squash, peas, beans and even plant tomatoes next to the fence and tie them to the fence. Well I did until the peacocks discovered the garden this year and ate the outside half of all my tomatoes so now they can't go next to a fence.
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I'm now in the process of moving an old clawfoot tub, wash basin, toilet and sink to the garden and planting in them. I'll probably make the tub a water garden since I like to mix flowers with my vegetables and herbs. I'm going to plant grapes on the trellis wall and other climbing vines. On the back side, since it will be shade, I'll be able to grow lettuce in the summer time. I like my garden to be fun and creative and a relaxing place to be. I've also added a picnic table under a tree in the back corner which makes a great place to work.

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Have fun with your garden - there are no rules. I knew zilch about gardening when I started my garden last year. Still don't know a lot but I know if you plant a seed in good rich soil full of chicken poop - it will grow. And, like was posted, you don't even need soil. I grew a potato patch by piling all the hay from the stable floors that I clean out against a fence and planted in that. It has enough poop in it to fertilize.

My garden is all organic. I don't use pesticides, fertilizers, herbicides. I plant fragrant herbs along the sides of the beds because they repel most insects.

You will be amazed at how much you can grow in one bed. I got 4 dozen ears of sweet candy corn from that one bed. I plant everything very close together and don't waste a single spot. If there's an empty spot I plant something in it so lots of things are planted in the same bed. I spaced my beds so that I can sit/kneel inbetween the two beds and reach the center of each one and work on both at same time without having to move. I just recently laid weed cloth between the beds and covered with hay and grass clippings because I got tired of trying to get the weedeater in there to cut the grass that grew. The other thing about raised beds is you only have to water the beds so the walkways and rest of the garden don't have to be watered.

I keep one bed empty so that I can dump the coop clean out directly in it and let it compost right there - then after awhile of turning it, I plant again so no need to buy more soil.
 
Gardening oh ya! Organic gardening...
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Please note I am very far north and live in a forest.. So it is challenging to say the least, but we have great gardens every year!!!

Pretty much only buy dairy at the store, that and some breads and a little meat.. Need cows/goats, and to start making bread again..
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We have a 48x12 cold frame.. Gets me a month extension of season on each end...
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Hmmm this years compost pile is a monster! 8 foot high 16 foot diameter...

Just worked up two more outdoor beds 12x20 and 12 x 40 Got the compost worked in so they will be ready in spring..
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Yes oyster shells are great in the garden!

Go composted chicken pop go!

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About a million years ago, I got an MA in economics from Purdue University's Krannert Graduate School of Industrial Management. About all I remember is what someone told me the first day of class, "If all the economists in the world were laid end to end, they'd never reach a common conclusion."

This action flies in the face of all of our agreements with Europe and other parts of the world to not devalue our money. Its happening really makes me wonder WHAT the Fed know that's not being told to the American public.

Joe I couldn't agree with you more on both of those statements. Now in the currency markets the dollar is rallying, at least against the Euro which I'm short on. It's almost as if the dollar and Euro are in a race to see who can devalue quicker and the Euro is winning.


As for the thread topic I can't wait until next year. My garden fed me well this year with minimal labor and it was completely organic. The bugs ate well too but I share. I transplanted a few pepper plants into pots that are in my living room.
 
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About a million years ago, I got an MA in economics from Purdue University's Krannert Graduate School of Industrial Management. About all I remember is what someone told me the first day of class, "If all the economists in the world were laid end to end, they'd never reach a common conclusion."

This action flies in the face of all of our agreements with Europe and other parts of the world to not devalue our money. Its happening really makes me wonder WHAT the Fed know that's not being told to the American public.

Joe I couldn't agree with you more on both of those statements. Now in the currency markets the dollar is rallying, at least against the Euro which I'm short on. It's almost as if the dollar and Euro are in a race to see who can devalue quicker and the Euro is winning.


As for the thread topic I can't wait until next year. My garden fed me well this year with minimal labor and it was completely organic. The bugs ate well too but I share. I transplanted a few pepper plants into pots that are in my living room.

This coming year we'll know better what we use and what we don't so we should be able to grow a good portion of our dinners. Lesson learned: 24 okra plants is TOO MUCH!
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This year my yields were way more than I could eat. Next year not only will I balance crops better but I'll be prepared with canning jars, freezer bags, and a dehydrator.

Okra doesn't grow well here. I tried a few years back. Probably gardener error.
 
Okay, lot's of good discussion about bed/garden prep so far let's keep it going....what about laying up seed stock now, or is that pushing the paranoia a little too far?

Just wanted to share a few pix to remind us of the goal.
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One weekend's collection

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Where some of it ended up

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Just a thought, I was planning on beans and corn for my birds. All in their own separate plots. Any thoughts on it or additions? I will ne letting the beans and corn harden and not sure how I am gonna do it, but break it in smaller pieces so the girls can eat it. Any ideas for other healthy additions? Want to add with everything going to go up, willing now so you don't have to spend on higher gas later would be beneficial.

If you have the money get some seed stock set aside. No telling what it will cost in the coming years. I know I will go to my feed supplier and get me some seed tomorrow. Get it all in the freezer for next year. Seeds hold longer in the freezer.
 
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Our big chest freezer is bulging full and the shelves are full of canned items too..
(Not as nice looking and as full as yours though!!)

can you hear me now,
How about planting some Black Oil Sunflower?
Pretty to look at and good for the chickens too..

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can you hear me now,
How about planting some Black Oil Sunflower?
Pretty to look at and good for the chickens too..

Thanks that is a great idea. Any more would be appreciated as well. Prices are going up and if I can self suffice for our girls I will.
 
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can you hear me now,
How about planting some Black Oil Sunflower?
Pretty to look at and good for the chickens too..

Thanks that is a great idea. Any more would be appreciated as well. Prices are going up and if I can self suffice for our girls I will.

My profile picture is from the garden this summer.

I plant(ed) the mammoth sunflowers 5 years ago in the garden, and left some for the wild birds over the winter. I never really "cleaned them up" and got a lot of volunteers the next year. Every year since, I leave 6 or 8 alone and let them drop seeds into the garden. As they come up in the spring, I work around them. Haven't had to plant sunflowers since then. When they are ripe, I cover the whole head with used panty hose and dry them in the garage. Once a week, the girls get a whole sunflower head tossed in the run for the food and amusement value.

I also get tons of squash that they seem to enjoy.​
 
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