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Crossing Recessive Slates with a Slate will not produce a Lavender. I know that the breeder contract that Porter had written up prohibits the people that bought them from crossing them with any other varieties of turkeys and does require Porter's approval for the sale of offspring. Violation of the terms of the contract calls for the forfeiture of the turkeys involved and the repossession by Porter's.

If she wants Lavenders, all she has to do is to breed a Blue Slate to a Blue Slate. That pairing will produce 50% Blue Slates, 25% Lavenders and 25% Blacks. Once the Lavenders are obtained, breeding Lavender to Lavender will yield 100% Lavenders.

Breeding a Blue Slate to a Recessive Slate will produce Barred Slates and Barred Blacks that are carrying the recessive bronze (b) and slate (sl) genes.

I do know that if Porter learns about someone planning to cross Recessive Slates with dominant Slates that someone will probably get sued.
LOL - I tried to tell her that in the beginning - blue slate to blue slate. Anyway, she isn't going to get those now. Just note - she found the birds online complete with a link back to Porters. In fact (there was a pause here while I listened some more), the more I hear, the more I am convinced either the person with these birds have no idea what they signed - OR a total disregard for the contract itself.

(another pause and different day)

It seems there has been an ongoing "firestorm" for lack of a better word regarding this Recessive Blue Slate contract on the BYC website. Personally, I don't have a particular problem with it especially since I have no intention of getting involved and certainly no interest in stirring up more drama. (I have enough fall into my lap on a daily basis without looking for it.) Since it was the agreement made and with no idea how strong the contract is, that would be between Porters and the buyers.

Hopefully, my sis has opted to go with my reasons and is looking at regular Blue Slate eggs instead.

All that said, these poults were advertised on a well-known sale site with at least one picture that I believe is from Porters. The person selling said there would not be a problem breeding to other varieties, including Blue Slate as long as none were sold as RBS birds. I believe that differs from the contract itself, but hey - I'm not an attorney. I did think it was odd, though - but then again, I think a lot of things are "odd".
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LOL - I tried to tell her that in the beginning - blue slate to blue slate. Anyway, she isn't going to get those now. Just note - she found the birds online complete with a link back to Porters. In fact (there was a pause here while I listened some more), the more I hear, the more I am convinced either the person with these birds have no idea what they signed - OR a total disregard for the contract itself.

(another pause and different day)

It seems there has been an ongoing "firestorm" for lack of a better word regarding this Recessive Blue Slate contract on the BYC website. Personally, I don't have a particular problem with it especially since I have no intention of getting involved and certainly no interest in stirring up more drama. (I have enough fall into my lap on a daily basis without looking for it.) Since it was the agreement made and with no idea how strong the contract is, that would be between Porters and the buyers.

Hopefully, my sis has opted to go with my reasons and is looking at regular Blue Slate eggs instead.

All that said, these poults were advertised on a well-known sale site with at least one picture that I believe is from Porters. The person selling said there would not be a problem breeding to other varieties, including Blue Slate as long as none were sold as RBS birds. I believe that differs from the contract itself, but hey - I'm not an attorney. I did think it was odd, though - but then again, I think a lot of things are "odd".
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There are always unethical people trying to pull something off that is illegal.

The thread on BYC was heated at times but has been dead for quite awhile. I do know that the contract signed by the purchasers from Porter's reserves the right to any cross breeding to Porter and it does give Porter's the right to control who the birds are sold to. Like you, it isn't my problem because I won't be getting those because of the contract. I would love to see a properly developed Recessive Blue Sweetgrass but it would take years of breeding to get there. The Recessive Blue Narragansett only required bringing in the Narragansett gene..
 
@R2elk do you remember who was wanting to know about sex link black skin in chickens? I remember you and @duluthralphie were talking about CRS and me because I couldn't remember where I seen it. Now I can't remember who was looking or what thread.

But I found a new thread where compost king talks about it https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/ranger-breeding-project.1382235/page-3

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Me! Me! I think it was on the baluttie thread though. Thanks for the link!
 
Four out so far.
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She is a beautiful hen! What variety is she? Congratulations on the new hatchlings! They are cute little things!
 
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My Blue Slate hen is on day 28 today. None have hatched or even internally pipped. I️ can clearly see movement in the egg/air sac, possibly shadowing. It hat been like that for a couple days now.

When do y’all predict I️ may see some poults or even some internal pips?

Thanks!
DC
 

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