Anyone have fish?

[CarpCharacin]

If you go with a stock tank, I'd recommend getting a canister filter, or you could build a moving bed filter like what I have on my pond.

 

[ShrekDawg]

If you go with a stock tank, I'd recommend getting a canister filter, or you could build a moving bed filter like what I have on my pond.

Thanks, I'll have to look into those. Never heard of the moving bed thing. So a pond filter wouldn't work in a stock tank? Is it cause it's so small?

 

[CarpCharacin]

What kind of pond filter were you thinking of using? A pond filter wouldn't be too small, unless it's designed for a pond smaller than what the stock tank would be. If the stock tank will be outside, especially in the sun, get a UV. When I first built my pond, I didn't have a UV, and the pond turned green with algae, so I installed a Jebao 55 watt UV and it cleared up.

 

[ShrekDawg]

What kind of pond filter were you thinking of using? A pond filter wouldn't be too small, unless it's designed for a pond smaller than what the stock tank would be. If the stock tank will be outside, especially in the sun, get a UV. When I first built my pond, I didn't have a UV, and the pond turned green with algae, so I installed a Jebao 55 watt UV and it cleared up.

Sorry, I meant the stock tank might be too small for a big pond filter?

I was thinking of getting this all in one one

https://www.thepondguy.com/product/...2/water-gardens-fish-ponds-all-in-one-filters

Or this one. If I got this one I would get the combo option listed.

https://www.thepondguy.com/product/.../water-gardens-fish-ponds-pressurized-filters

 

[ShrekDawg]

Oh and the stock tank I'm thinking of getting is 300 gallons so maybe overkill but I figure I could use it for the pond too

 

[CarpCharacin]

None of those filters you linked are too powerful for the stock tank, know someone who has ran a 2500 GPH pump on a 300 gallon rubbermaid stock tank. If you want to keep them in the stock tank permanently, and aren't planning on adding that many more fish, I'd go for the one you linked with the one with the most powerful pump, which is the second one you linked with the combo option, that comes with a 1250 GPH pump. The most powerful all in one filter only has a 580 GPH pump, so don't get that one.

 

[ShrekDawg]

None of those filters you linked are too powerful for the stock tank, know someone who has ran a 2500 GPH pump on a 300 gallon rubbermaid stock tank. If you aren't planning on adding that many more fish, I'd go for the one with the one with the most powerful pump, which is the second one you linked with the combo option, that comes with a 1250 GPH pump.

Thanks! That's good to know. I'll get that one then. How many more fish could I add? I might just not add any more and stick with these 4 for now but I'm just curious if I decide to in the future. Of course I probably have to quarantine them first anyway?

 

[ShrekDawg]

And I'm assuming I might need a bigger filter and pump for the pond?

 

[CarpCharacin]

Thanks! That's good to know. I'll get that one then. How many more fish could I add? I might just not add any more and stick with these 4 for now but I'm just curious if I decide to in the future. Of course I probably have to quarantine them first anyway?

If you want to keep the fish in the stock tank permanently, you probably could probably add a few more, but I wouldn't add a whole lot, because goldfish get big. If you are just planning on growing them out, and you're planning to build a bigger pond, how many you can add really depends on how many your future pond can accommodate when they get larger, IMO. The stock tank can hold plenty of small goldfish, but they grow quickly, and they produce more waste when they get bigger.

And I'm assuming I might need a bigger filter and pump for the pond?

Probably, but it depends on how big your are planning making the pond. If it's an in ground pond, you should have a bottom drain as the filter intake, and you also might want to add a skimmer. How big are you planning on making it?

 

[ShrekDawg]

If you want to keep the fish in the stock tank permanently, you probably could probably add a few more, but I wouldn't add a whole lot, because goldfish get big. If you are just planning on growing them out, and you're planning to build a bigger pond, how many you can add really depends on how many your future pond can accommodate when they get larger, IMO. The stock tank can hold plenty small goldfish, but they grow quickly, and they produce more waste when they get bigger.

Probably, but it depends on how big your are planning making the pond. If it's an in ground pond, you should have a bottom drain as the filter intake, and you also might want to add a skimmer. How big are you planning on making it?

Thanks, that's really helpful! I wasn't planning on keeping them in it permanently but just in case I decide to bring them in in the winter or if not, at least just a temporary thing for now, so they have more suitable arrangements until the pond is built. Either way though, I might keep one or two running permanently eventually maybe as a grow out tank or something. Not sure yet. That's if I get addicted to fish and go crazy haha but I'm going to try to contain myself and not do that.

I'm still not really sure how big I want to make it because I'm not sure what will work in the area we have. Need to have a pond person out to estimate or help with location.

I might take pictures of the area too and maybe someone can see what they think. The problem is we don't have too much flat area and my mom wants a waterfall or two. Or like a stream or something.

I can say though we found a liner free that's like 5x3 I think (a little less, more like 4.5×2.5) and kinda kidney shaped, 18 or 20 inches at deepest and I want it to be bigger than that.