Sorry gentlemen, I have to respectfully disagree here..People always talk about Malay being so tall. Shamo are standardized at 3 pounds heavier than Malay, and they are that much more proportionally taller. Obviously strains can and will vary in size, but, an O shamo in general should be taller than a Malay. I have seen good examples of both in person, the Shamo are taller and heavier both. These are both very large chickens with some natural overlap in size, I'm just saying the giant 3' Malay are extremely rare, and giant Shamo, not nearly as rare. Most asils are quite small, sure, some huge ones are around, but, most over here are the small reza type, which are quite short. Honestly, the tallest chickens I've ever seen have been Langshans, with good shamo coming in a very close second.