Barnevelder breeders lets work together and improve the breed

[Happy Chooks]

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I look forward to seeing them.

I'd still love to be added to the list. Did I mention I love blue chickens?

 

[aceschix]

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Hello Mary in NH!!

I am also in NH. I have a flock of Barnies that I have not yet shown. They are laying beautiful med/drk eggs. They have great lacing and no V head on my chicks

I am growing out a few babies to add to my flock and I have a few Pinkchick eggs in the bator to grow up too. I may end up with an extra really good rooster.

We should talk since we are in the same little State

 

[tls_ranch]

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I see one clearly "V" marked chick in those photos. If they are hens then keep track of them and be careful to band all their offspring. Don't keep any cockerels that were "V" marked or come from hens that were "V" marked as chicks. The main reason is that the roos that came from "V" marked hens or were "V" marked as chicks can look correctly marked as adults, but they probably are not genetically correct.

One thing to remember is that there are not a lot of sources for Barnevelders out there. Many breeders may not even know that they have hens or roos that carry a copy of the e+ (wild type) gene. These "V" chicks may keep popping up from time to time even in what was thought as "good" stock.
It's almost like the BC Marans having Recessive Wheaten popping up. But in this case with Barnevelders the e+ (Wild type) is "dominant" over the correct eb (Brown). It can be breed out as long as breeders keep selecting for the hens with the best lacing and keep the roos that came from the hens with the best lacing.

Trisha

 

[RachaelS]

Can't wait to see the pictures. I like blues, but do they lose their iridescence? In your other pictures, they don’t seem to have it like the brown ones but not sure if that was due to lighting.

I did not want to get this lost without an answer, is this a picture of a "V" chick?


https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/25614_barnevelders1.jpg

 

[RachaelS]

Trisha,
Sorry posted my second one before I saw your response. These are not mine, they are from another post I saw. My guy did not have that. I hope my new ones don't also. I will keep all this in mind! Wow, and to think I just started with the thought, hey I would like a couple of eggs......

 

[tls_ranch]

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Yes, the "V" chick is the one to the far right. The blues will loose their most or all of the iridescence because all the black markings become blue (grey). They will look similar in color to good quality Blue Laced Red Wyandottes, except they will be double-laced. Just like the BLR dottes you'll get Black, Blue and Splash varieties when you breed blue to blue. Eventually they should be good enough in type, pattern and base color that it would be possible to breed them with regular "black-laced" barnevelders in the same pen. The "black-laced" F2 pullets and cockerels do show just as much iridescence as pures, but the double lacing is not as clean at this point.

Trisha

 

[tls_ranch]

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I figured that you were just using the picture as an example I just wanted to answer the best I could about this "V" issue. I think it's just another issue to work on like pale yellow legs, small size, egg production, type etc. Breeders just need to make sure they are breeding for the best quality.

Trisha

 

[RachaelS]

Has anyone bred a Buff Orphington to a Barnie? If you could get golden double lace, it seems like that would be pretty. Just wondering if anyone ever tried. They seems to be similar in personality. I am not advocating it, just wondering

 

[RachaelS]

PS the Buff was what my heart was set on until I saw a Barnie.

 

[tls_ranch]

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Here's a picture of some Buff Orp x Barnie crosses. I don't know how these were bred or if there were multiple crosses back to a Barnie. This is not my photo, but I borrowed it from the yahoo Barnevelder groups album. I think I can see some faint lacing or penciling on the hens. The roo kind of looks a little like a New Hampshire.