black meat breeds, silkies ect....

[Double Kindness]

Bluekimchi- I'm obsessed with fm birds for meat, and other meat chickens atm.

I don’t have any experience with eating any dp chickens, as I just started raising 26 x 4-5 week old straight run chicks I got at a local feed store. I've had them all of 8 days and they are on a 26% protein gamebird feed diet and are outside too now.

I have these chicks on medicated chick starter atm, and just started a batch fermenting, along with gamebird feed. Lots of work lol.

I hope these cemani x orpington chicks do well, I started a new thread in the raising baby chicks section of this forum.

I think my friends cemani also came from wolfwhyte/mike, but weren't of his 'Smithsonian' line, which my chicks are the progeny of. My friends black/white paint orpington roos are quite spectacular looking too.

I am getting svart honas, cemani & bresse through dcchicken/will & his sister has the bresse, which if I get any females of these chicks, I will put with the bresse as part of a sustainable meatie flock project, as well as keeping pure breeds and improving the lines, but hey that can change at any time lol.

 

[Kassaundra]

I have several in my flock that are Fm, mine are all NN











I'm trying to select more for fm in coming generations,

 

[bluenkimchi]

Kass,

You're birds are gorgeous, they must be silkie X NN? I like your last pic of the black hen/pullet the most, but the roo above her is beautiful too.

Have you seen Dipsy Doodle's FM birds? She has both single comb Jersey giant like and NN FM birds.

DK,

That was my first thought, when I saw the cemani hen you posted, that she is of Mike's line. I have a single roo from Mike, of his Controversial Smithsonian line. It's ok, if it really is a hybrid and not a pure, since what DC said about blue earlobe is coming from gypsy face birds are pretty true. Ture FM breeds don't have blue earlobe, but same color as the whole face. Blue is mostly like from a mix of a bird having white earlobes.

I can use him my FM projects.

Your bresee X cemani or svart hona, will be awesome. I like the idea of a completely white feather bird, that is very dark FM. Actually, if a pure white feather bird is FM, they tend have or at least look darker skin tones than other color feather birds, well except a jet black one.

I have two other FM pullets, will post sometime later this week.

 

[gootziecat]

Anyone in the Indianapolis area looking for a large Silkie, check out the Sizzle thread. Some one has one and looking for a home for him, if it is.

 

[DCchicken]

Kass,

You're birds are gorgeous, they must be silkie X NN? I like your last pic of the black hen/pullet the most, but the roo above her is beautiful too.

Have you seen Dipsy Doodle's FM birds? She has both single comb Jersey giant like and NN FM birds.

DK,

That was my first thought, when I saw the cemani hen you posted, that she is of Mike's line. I have a single roo from Mike, of his Controversial Smithsonian line. It's ok, if it really is a hybrid and not a pure, since what DC said about blue earlobe is coming from gypsy face birds are pretty true. Ture FM breeds don't have blue earlobe, but same color as the whole face. Blue is mostly like from a mix of a bird having white earlobes.

I can use him my FM projects.

Your bresee X cemani or svart hona, will be awesome. I like the idea of a completely white feather bird, that is very dark FM. Actually, if a pure white feather bird is FM, they tend have or at least look darker skin tones than other color feather birds, well except a jet black one.

I have two other FM pullets, will post sometime later this week.

If you like the idea of a white FM bird, you might like my birchen Kedu. Technically they are closer to Cemani as the birds have black skin and not clear skin. But it's not fair to call them Cemani since that designation is only for the all black color of Kedu. I have a separate pen of these birchen Kedu:

 

[Double Kindness]

DCchicken- of course I'm interested in more fm chickens. the nn don't really appeal to me though. My friend has her ayam cemani from mike/wolfwhyte, but she stated they are not from his smithsonian line but his other line. I can't just keep roosters upon roosters lol, there's a local vet that does the quieting surgery, I have one of her semi-quieted roosters, so I'm thinking whichever take to the quieting surgery the best, and I understand it's best to do it before they really start getting into their crowing. I will choose one or two males of the bresse to keep the bresse line going pure, but will caponize the others, I figured I should practice on the free/inexpensive chicks when they are of age rather than start to learn on the more expensive chicks, that way losses aren't quite so costly. There is a method to my madness sometimes.If anyone has experience with this and the feeding/care of bresse chickens for the best meat, I'm trying to stumble my way into figuring out how best to raise my chickens for the best meat, since they will be well known meat breeds.

As I am half Korean, I am insanely interested in the fm korean chickens... besides myself, I will have a market of friends in the food industry in the thai and korean communities locally as well as several chefs who work at very high end restaurants that want my chickens for their personal foodie/gourmet desires as well as some clientele.

I breed and preserve landrace genetic lines in plants and study the different phenotypes and cultivars and submit them to the genome mapping project, is there any such type of thing for fm chickens/birds? Genetic testing? I had thought I might have read that someplace about genetically testing chickens to see which breed they truly are.

I've not had my required dose of coffee yet, but have done 2 rounds of chicken tending so far this morning. Now time to attach a big cuppa coffee. One of my little new cemani x orpington chicks can only hop around on one leg, I thought it was spraddled, but it looks more serious with it's hock, so I'm at a loss as to wtd about this one chick. I redid his brace/bandage today, they are starting to get some feathers instead of being so downy, the 2 little ones that have the most black saturation with a bit of yellow leakage aren't as feathered as the 3 other ones, one that very much looks not fm/cemani-ish.

Coffee I need coffee to continue this day.

 

[bluenkimchi]

If you like the idea of a white FM bird, you might like my birchen Kedu. Technically they are closer to Cemani as the birds have black skin and not clear skin. But it's not fair to call them Cemani since that designation is only for the all black color of Kedu. I have a separate pen of these birchen Kedu:

That would be great to add to my birds, but no room atm or the budget yet. But perhaps, next year when my house with land is ready to move in, i'll ring you up.

Are the hens birchen color as well or are they black like regular cemani hens?

Though Svart Hona might be better adapted to my winter cold up here in WI?

 

[bluenkimchi]

As I am half Korean, I am insanely interested in the fm korean chickens... besides myself, I will have a market of friends in the food industry in the thai and korean communities locally as well as several chefs who work at very high end restaurants that want my chickens for their personal foodie/gourmet desires as well as some clientele.

If you don't mind contacting these people in southern CA about them selling and possibly shipping chicks to you. You can get some Korean Ogol/ Ogey chicks from them at $25/ per un sexed chick.

I don't know if it's the really thing, but I believe one of the spouse is Korean too, so could be?

Here is the ad on CL, my friend just sent me two days ago http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/grd/4633111780.html

 

[DCchicken]

That would be great to add to my birds, but no room atm or the budget yet. But perhaps, next year when my house with land is ready to move in, i'll ring you up.

Are the hens birchen color as well or are they black like regular cemani hens?

Though Svart Hona might be better adapted to my winter cold up here in WI?

Just like Birchen Marans, some are all black feathers and some have birchen (silver) hackle feathers.

Personally I would go with Svart Hona in WI. The Svart Hona are slightly fatter and more adapted to the cold. Technically all Svart Hona are landrace similar to Swedish Flower Hens, Hedemora, etc. But the breeders I know tend to select for the blackest of the black.

 

[bluenkimchi]

Just like Birchen Marans, some are all black feathers and some have birchen (silver) hackle feathers.

Personally I would go with Svart Hona in WI. The Svart Hona are slightly fatter and more adapted to the cold. Technically all Svart Hona are landrace similar to Swedish Flower Hens, Hedemora, etc. But the breeders I know tend to select for the blackest of the black.

I see, they can vary in feather plumage.

Just curious, are your birchen cemani/kedu the same price as your regular black cemani/kedu?

I would just leave any land race pretty much as they are, but it's really up to the breeder, how they like their line of birds to be.

I was looking on rare breed auctions.com and thought I might be interested in betting on GFF auction of Svart Honas young 2 month old pairs, but the bidding just keep jumping up every time, I re look at the listing. I guess in time, the price will drop off like everything else(including the Cemani from all the different breeders out there)/.

BTW, have your Svart honas been laying and hatching any chicks yet?