bloody poop on a Sunday

[cheekyhens]

Asked the previous owner, he got them from ts, and said he fed them medicated feed.. does this make a difference in anything?

 

[Eggcessive]

What's Amprolium? Is that corid? No change in environment, they're about 7 months old. Have had them for 3weeks. Not sure if they've been vaccinated or if they've been fed medicated feed. They're being fed pelleted feed, scratch and scraps.

I did actually think their coop looked like a crime scene once about a week or more ago. It looked like they had explosive diarrhea on the coop floor, but nothing red, it was all dark black/green.

I'll watch their behavior when I get a chance to check on them next. I got the powdered corid from ts.

Not to butt in, but since you have only had them 3 weeks, that would be the change in environment--changing someone else's soil to yours--exactly how chickens get exposed to a new strain of coccidia (since there are 9 strains in chickens.) Some strains don't cause blood in stools, just diarrhea. How much powder Corid are you using to a gallon of water? The medicated feed is supposed to help them build up immunity to cocci, but moving them exposed them to the new strain.

 

[casportpony]

Does anyone that has Corid powder also have a gram scale? If so, can someone please weigh 4.5 grams and post what that equals in teaspoons?

-Kathy

 

[cheekyhens]

Oh, I didnt even consider that, I guess I figured they'd catch it right away if that was the case. I'll start medicating them tomorrow morning. Do they need 2 sources. of water, one corid and one unmedicated? Thanks for all of your guys' help!

 

[Eggcessive]

Just Corid in the water--if they don't drink enough of it they won't get the meds. Treat for 5-7 days. Mix new each day. Give vitamins and probiotics AFTER treatment.

 

[cheekyhens]

I don't think they have cocci... They're not lethargic, eating well, and lively except one little hen that gets picked on (she's slow to eat and avoids the others whenever she can. I noticed a few broken blood feathers near her tail. I think what I saw may have been blood from her broken feathers leaking down onto the poo while she was sleeping, should I try to remove them with pliers or what? I sprayed her and some others that are missing feathers with blukote. Any advice?

 

[R.M.Qureshi]

Possibility of Histomonas as well.

 

[cheekyhens]

I'll continue to look at their excrement in the coop to try to determine if there's something wrong. Looked up histomonas, showed there's no effective treatment but that antibiotics might help. Here's a picture of the pops the day after the bloody looking poo.

Sorry I'm flooding this thread with poo pictures, I'm new to chickens and learning, thank you all for your input.

 

[Eggcessive]

Histomonas is blackhead, and aren't the symptoms sulfur yellow poo?

 

[casportpony]

Histomonas is blackhead, and aren't the symptoms sulfur yellow poo?

It *can* be yellow, but in all of the ones I have treated for blackhead, only one had the yellow poop. What's interesting is that the ones of mine that that had blood in their poop only had it in their cecal poop, which make sense since that's where the damage occurs. The poop in the above pictures do not look like cecal poop to me, so I doubt that it's histomoniasis.

If the bird was mine, I would de-worm with fenbendazole (Safeguard or Panacur, liquid or paste) 20mg-50mg/kg by mouth for 3-5 days. I'm still doing research on the most effective way to get the most worms, so that dose/amount of days will probably change. I think Canadians can get the paste for horses very easily. Albendazole is another option, but I don't think it's easy to get in Canada. Online order maybe?













Histomoniasis treatment is metronidazole at no less than 30mg/kg by mouth once a day for 5 days. Again, not sure how Canadians can get this, here we just buy it otc for fish as Fish-Zole for fish or Meditrich for Pigeons.
They look like this:



-Kathy

Disclaimer:
My histomoniasis experience is limited to the successful treatment of 5 turkeys and six peafowl and the unsuccessful treatment of two turkeys and two peafowl.