Bob Blosl's Heritage Large Fowl Thread

[kathyinmo]

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ALBC mission statement is here:

http://www.albc-usa.org/about.html

APA mission statement is here:

http://www.amerpoultryassn.com/

 

[joletabey]

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The ALBC is more than chickens. It's cattle, sheep, horses, etc.

 

[punky rooster]

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well I'm a bit confused 2. all birds SHOULD be bred to the standard. especially if you want to show. Heritage birds are or should be bred to the standard. Hatchery birds are not heritage. and I also stated the rules about heritage birds.
1. APA Standard Breed. Heritage Chicken must be from parent and grandparent stock of breeds recognized by the American Poultry Association (APA) prior to the mid-20th century; whose genetic line can be traced back multiple generations; and with traits that meet the APA Standard of Perfection guidelines for the breed. Heritage Chicken must be produced and sired by an APA Standard breed. Heritage eggs must be laid by an APA Standard breed.
2. Naturally mating. Heritage Chicken must be reproduced and genetically maintained through natural mating. Chickens marketed as Heritage must be the result of naturally mating pairs of both grandparent and parent stock.
3. Long, productive outdoor lifespan. Heritage Chicken must have the genetic ability to live a long, vigorous life and thrive in the rigors of pasture-based, outdoor production systems. Breeding hens should be productive for 5-7 years and roosters for 3-5 years.
4. Slow growth rate. Heritage Chicken must have a moderate to slow rate of growth, reaching appropriate market weight for the breed in no less than 16 weeks. This gives the chicken time to develop strong skeletal structure and healthy organs prior to building muscle mass.

Chickens marketed as Heritage must include the variety and breed name on the label.

Terms like “heirloom,” “antique,” “old-fashioned,” and “old timey” imply Heritage and are understood to be synonymous with the definition provided here.

Abbreviated Definition: A Heritage Egg can only be produced by an American Poultry Association Standard breed. A Heritage Chicken is hatched from a heritage egg sired by an American Poultry Association Standard breed established prior to the mid-20th century, is slow growing, naturally mated with a long productive outdoor life.
punky

 

[punky rooster]

rodriguezpoultry did your langshans come from Duane Urch?

 

[rodriguezpoultry]

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well I'm a bit confused 2. all birds SHOULD be bred to the standard. especially if you want to show. Heritage birds are or should be bred to the standard.

Generally speaking, are all birds bred towards the standard considered heritage? In that case, why are they called heritage and not "show quality" if the birds are supposed to match the standard of the APA in order to be considered heritage?

Hatchery birds are not heritage. and I also stated the rules about heritage birds.

Yes, I've cut the guidelines so as to keep from creating too much reading. I was referring back to the guidelines of the ALBC that you posted. Thank you for posting them by the way!​

 

[rodriguezpoultry]

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OH! GOTCHA! Thank you! I haven't looked at the website, I just assumed it was a group condensing something in poultry. Thank you!

 

[rodriguezpoultry]

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No, I got mine from Forrest Beauford. Unless he crossed them into his lines earlier up the road?

 

[punky rooster]

sorry but one more time

1. APA Standard Breed. Heritage Chicken must be from parent and grandparent stock of breeds recognized by the American Poultry Association (APA) prior to the mid-20th century; whose genetic line can be traced back multiple generations; and with traits that meet the APA Standard of Perfection guidelines for the breed. Heritage Chicken must be produced and sired by an APA Standard breed. Heritage eggs must be laid by an APA Standard breed.
2. Naturally mating. Heritage Chicken must be reproduced and genetically maintained through natural mating. Chickens marketed as Heritage must be the result of naturally mating pairs of both grandparent and parent stock.
3. Long, productive outdoor lifespan. Heritage Chicken must have the genetic ability to live a long, vigorous life and thrive in the rigors of pasture-based, outdoor production systems. Breeding hens should be productive for 5-7 years and roosters for 3-5 years.
4. Slow growth rate. Heritage Chicken must have a moderate to slow rate of growth, reaching appropriate market weight for the breed in no less than 16 weeks. This gives the chicken time to develop strong skeletal structure and healthy organs prior to building muscle mass.

not all breeds fall under those categories. some breeds were created later then that. not all Heritage birds are are show quality.
I'm sorry this is very confusing stuff

 

[punky rooster]

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No, I got mine from Forrest Beauford. Unless he crossed them into his lines earlier up the road?

ok I'm just trying to find some one who has got stock from him.

 

[buffbeauty]

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Ha! Yeah! Except yours only weigh about 1/5 of what mine do!!