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What colors are these two birds? They are not the same. Are they both gold laced?The one on the left in all the double pictures is a lot lighter than the one on the right. The right is more red. So are these both gold laced? Dan, you are talking about your red laced and is this what I have in one of my birds. If I breed to my buff laced will I get the gold not the red?I like the lighter of the 2 colors but the dark in nice too. Thoughts?
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Thanks Dan. I always appreciate your help!!
Anna
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RedRoo,

Neither appears to be black laced red. I’d call the darker pullet ‘golden bay’, which is the more standard gold laced coloration. I prefer the lighter variation of gold laced as well. That said, the darker gold coloration is actually the better candidate for a buff laced project. I learned this the hard way, via trial and error.

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Just a big note of advice here. . . If you're planning on making a new color of Brahma using what you have there, make sure your Brahma parents are up to the standard are are up to weight, and make sure the Rhode Island Reds used are NOT hatchery stock, otherwise they will slim down the Brahma, pulling down its weight, size, quality, body type, and so on. . .

Oh and another thing - With hatchery stock Production type Reds, you're not going to make the Brahmas much redder in color. Production Reds are already so pale, there's often no actual mahogany genes left in them, so thus the F1 and even second generation birds won't be that much darker.


If you're aware of all this, that's great!
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Master S.M.C is also working on Red Brahmas, perhaps s/he can help you out.
 
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well the red offspring pictured is i suppose called an F1 (just learning about genetics in biology class and so i am learning the terminology)

i think they are all originally hatchery but i know the roosters are large (then again i haven't seen what a show quality one is supposed to look like, no one had that breed at the monroe show). the red F1 did mature faster than its pure buff columbian brother and the light one (which i guess was sex linked) was the slowest to mature. its a shame he became coyote chow he was very nice..
even though i hate losing some of my chickens to predators i do need some that are more naturally selected, more foraging type. and disease resistant.

i am doing this all as a learning experience on genetics and a hobby, i am not planning on show quality but a more productive/utility types i want eggs but i love the puppy personality and their overall look
 
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You should sometime consider weighing your Brahmas.
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It gives you a good idea. . . . A Brahma cock should weigh over 10 lbs, just as a note of reference.

I don't even have a truly accurate scale yet, but I use one made for humans. It at least gives me an idea of weight, with an estimated inaccuracy of max 1 lb.
 
well we have the fruitstand so i have access to certified digital scales because we sale retail and are a commercial business. one goes to 30lb and another goes to 60..... not that i would need that.....

when i get home i will have to try weighing him. probably throw a sock on his head and set him in a tared cherry lug. weight then sanitize the scale... since we use it to weigh fresh produce.

i know from estimating that Lionel was over 11 pounds at one point. he is in the end of molt i think... do brahmas completely molt? is being a 3year old too young for the first molt? My chickens weight run on the lean side since they are free ranging all the time.
they range a few hundred yards and catch mice really well. on really nice days they will go deep into the orchard, i have to bang the metal feed lid really loud to bring them near.

one time i was worried i was going to get a ticket because they were close to the highway. i figured it was the state trooper's fault. he pulled a car over near my coop. he is dressed in blue and i like the color blue and suddenly he had many chickens pecking at his feet. why did the chicken cross the road? i think because there is "grit" and the grass grows faster near the pavement....
 
i just bought one from my local feedstore it was a male light brahma surprisingly it was cheap and they had to much that they still have the orders from 2 weeks in a row, no one barely bought them so i i so said wth might as well try but i never raise very fluffy breeds
 
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