tims brahma look like quality birds even to my untrained eye, I'm not going to insult anyones birds, but what I'm learning from this thread alone, is great, Ive learned my birds tail feathers are all wrong the few she has and she has black on her back where it shouldn't be,but her legs are nice and clean and nice wings and very nice head and solid body, she isn't show quality but she's beautifyl all the same.