Brahma Thread

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Alright, to catch up here.

Locked up my computer last night, it's in the shop now. I'm thinking timing belt. Currently using wifes laptop ( very carefully).

The Lucasville show is in fact Oct. 5-6.

Lifelong hunter, degree in wildlife management, and twenty years in the field, don't get me started on anthromorphism.

Browns fan.

before the first Super bowl the Browns beat the Cowboys every dang year

 

[brahmapapa]

My Heart is so Broken
i had very healthy chickens i had no issues and then 3 weeks ago a guy came by and told me his whole flock died of GVH1 and asked if he could buy some hens from me .
OK so i made him a deal i felt so bad

Now my babies my dark Brahmas are not doing well this is the matching symptoms to this
Avian Infectious Laryngotracheitis

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Avian Infectious Laryngotracheitis

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Gallid Herpesvirus 1​

Class DNA Viruses
Order Caudovirales
Family Herpesviridae
Genus Infectious Laryngotracheitis-like Viruses
Species GHV-1​

Also Known As: Infectious Laryngotracheitis — ILT — AILT — Laryngotracheitis Virus — LTV
Caused By: Gallid Herpesvirus I also known as: GHV-1 — Infectious Laryngotracheitis Virus — ILTV — LTV

Contents

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• 1 Introduction
• 2 Signalment
• 3 Distribution
• 4 Clinical Signs
• 5 Diagnosis
• 6 Treatment
• 7 Control
• 8 References

Introduction

Gallid Herpes virus causes respiratory disease in chickens and pheasants.
Disease varies from mild to peracute, with mortality in peracute outbreaks exceeding 50%.
As with all herpesviruses, GHV-1 can remain latent in carriers after infection and then be shed intermittently, recrudescing with stress.
Signalment

The chicken is the primary host and reservoir host. A form of LT has been described in pheasants.
Distribution

Worldwide. Transmission is via direct contact and contaminated people and equipment. Vermin and wild birds and dogs may aid mechanical transmission.
Clinical Signs

Respiratory signs:
Nasal discharge which is often bloody
Coughing which may also include blood
Sneezing, dyspnoea, gasping, upper respiratory tract pain
Abnormal lung sounds
Decreased egg production, thin egg shells, lack of growth
Neurological and ophthalmologic signs may develop.
Death may occur rapidly and with high mortality in peracute and acute disease. In recent times, LT usually presents in a mild form and most birds recover.
Diagnosis

On post-mortem, haemorrhagic tracheitis and bloodstained mucus are evident. Pneumonia and sacculitis may also be seen. Caseous diptheritic membranes may be present on the mucosae of the upper respiratory tract.
Histopathology reveals loss of cilia, mucosal gland atrophy, intranuclear inclusion bodies and epithelial cell sloughing. Characteristic syncytia develop. A fibrinonecrotic membrane may be present in more chronic disease cases.
Antigen ELISA is both straightforward, quick and sensitive. The PCR can be used to detect LTV.
Immunofluorescent or Immunoperoxidase staining can also be performed and is more rapid but less sensitive.
Virus isolation on a variety of tissues including tracheal swabs or tissue samples may be useful.
Agar Gel Immunodiffusion can detect virus in tracheal samples.
Electron microscopy can be used to demonstrate viral particles in tracheal scrapings or exudates but is insensitive.
Measuring viral antibody measures infection indirectly as serum antibodies peak around 2 weeks after infection and wane slowly afterwards.
Treatment

Where early diagnosis is made, vaccination can be administered in the face of infection to help reduce further morbidity and mortality.
Control

ILT can be effectively controlled by vaccination. Vaccinated and unvaccinated birds should not be mixed due to the possibility of reversion to virulence. Most are modified live isolates and are administered by eye drop.
Adequate biosecurity, quarantine and disinfection is also essential.
Wild birds and vermin should be prevented from accessing poultry and their food/water sources.


Looking for an avian vet again the one who came out said to look this up but gave no meds and No Perscriotion and they would get well on their own ,,I do not believe this any advice i have worked hard keeping my flock up and healthy this vet charged me 500 for the tests on 16 birds i have babies but now i think those day olds will be well sick too please advise Please begging in tears and crying wondering is this contagous to humans and other animals what about my parrot ?
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OMG Tammy, so very sorry for your issues, I know how hard you worked to get those darks, I hope things work out so you don't loose too much, poor babies

 

[Tammy N]

Tim If i have to euthanize my birds it will be about 6 months before i can actually get show birds again the chicks i bought as day olds from a show breeder cost me a fortune patron and his girls i was blessed with they have been vaccionated for this and other diseases .

i will need a good mentor and promise no one on my property ever .

is there a good list for things to have on hand

like different Vaccines and meds that should always be in my Bird Fridge where i will have anything i need for them ?

 

[Tammy N]

Quote:

Avian Infectious Laryngotracheitis

[FONT=geneva, helvetica, sans serif]Created by the veterinary profession for you - find out more about WikiVet[/FONT]​

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Listen to Page Podcast or download via iTunes​

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Gallid Herpesvirus 1​

Class DNA Viruses
Order Caudovirales
Family Herpesviridae
Genus Infectious Laryngotracheitis-like Viruses
Species GHV-1​

Also Known As: Infectious Laryngotracheitis — ILT — AILT — Laryngotracheitis Virus — LTV
Caused By: Gallid Herpesvirus I also known as: GHV-1 — Infectious Laryngotracheitis Virus — ILTV — LTV

Contents

[hide] ​

• 1 Introduction
• 2 Signalment
• 3 Distribution
• 4 Clinical Signs
• 5 Diagnosis
• 6 Treatment
• 7 Control
• 8 References

Introduction

Gallid Herpes virus causes respiratory disease in chickens and pheasants.
Disease varies from mild to peracute, with mortality in peracute outbreaks exceeding 50%.
As with all herpesviruses, GHV-1 can remain latent in carriers after infection and then be shed intermittently, recrudescing with stress.
Signalment

The chicken is the primary host and reservoir host. A form of LT has been described in pheasants.
Distribution

Worldwide. Transmission is via direct contact and contaminated people and equipment. Vermin and wild birds and dogs may aid mechanical transmission.
Clinical Signs

Respiratory signs:
Nasal discharge which is often bloody
Coughing which may also include blood
Sneezing, dyspnoea, gasping, upper respiratory tract pain
Abnormal lung sounds
Decreased egg production, thin egg shells, lack of growth
Neurological and ophthalmologic signs may develop.
Death may occur rapidly and with high mortality in peracute and acute disease. In recent times, LT usually presents in a mild form and most birds recover.
Diagnosis

On post-mortem, haemorrhagic tracheitis and bloodstained mucus are evident. Pneumonia and sacculitis may also be seen. Caseous diptheritic membranes may be present on the mucosae of the upper respiratory tract.
Histopathology reveals loss of cilia, mucosal gland atrophy, intranuclear inclusion bodies and epithelial cell sloughing. Characteristic syncytia develop. A fibrinonecrotic membrane may be present in more chronic disease cases.
Antigen ELISA is both straightforward, quick and sensitive. The PCR can be used to detect LTV.
Immunofluorescent or Immunoperoxidase staining can also be performed and is more rapid but less sensitive.
Virus isolation on a variety of tissues including tracheal swabs or tissue samples may be useful.
Agar Gel Immunodiffusion can detect virus in tracheal samples.
Electron microscopy can be used to demonstrate viral particles in tracheal scrapings or exudates but is insensitive.
Measuring viral antibody measures infection indirectly as serum antibodies peak around 2 weeks after infection and wane slowly afterwards.
Treatment

Where early diagnosis is made, vaccination can be administered in the face of infection to help reduce further morbidity and mortality.
Control

ILT can be effectively controlled by vaccination. Vaccinated and unvaccinated birds should not be mixed due to the possibility of reversion to virulence. Most are modified live isolates and are administered by eye drop.
Adequate biosecurity, quarantine and disinfection is also essential.
Wild birds and vermin should be prevented from accessing poultry and their food/water sources.


Looking for an avian vet again the one who came out said to look this up but gave no meds and No Perscriotion and they would get well on their own ,,I do not believe this any advice i have worked hard keeping my flock up and healthy this vet charged me 500 for the tests on 16 birds i have babies but now i think those day olds will be well sick too please advise Please begging in tears and crying wondering is this contagous to humans and other animals what about my parrot ?
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OMG Tammy, so very sorry for your issues, I know how hard you worked to get those darks, I hope things work out so you don't loose too much, poor babies
TY Brahma Papa i had every Chick that i bught from a breeder show guy in Ohio culled down from 15 pullets to 6 of the best 4 great pulles and 2 extra for the just in case and then he sent 3 young males also day old non related to the pullets he sent me i had them down to the best one and a runner up also for the just in case so i kept 8 out of 17 birds he sent me . My first cull was vulture hocks 2 of those he sent just to show me what they would look like in chicks told me i should let parton breed them and see if he also carried for them he believed that both arents had to carry for them to get them in the offspring and that was how he would know if a new line was a carrier he kept these seperate from his show birds . i culed for color the last Head and body type or conformation the head was the fun one the best girl had vulture hocks Grrrrr so i basically went with the Bigger flaws left first. Vulture hocks , off color , too much white and then body type ................... this really hurts . If you can pray for them i am just still kinda in shock even how this guy got my info was a friends ad on CL he showed up at roys and roy told him about me this guy is on my List and not the christmas one either

 

[Shark Akhrrana]

TY Brahma Papa i had every Chick that i bught from a breeder show guy in Ohio culled down from 15 pullets to 6 of the best 4 great pulles and 2 extra for the just in case and then he sent 3 young males also day old non related to the pullets he sent me i had them down to the best one and a runner up also for the just in case so i kept 8 out of 17 birds he sent me . My first cull was vulture hocks 2 of those he sent just to show me what they would look like in chicks told me i should let parton breed them and see if he also carried for them he believed that both arents had to carry for them to get them in the offspring and that was how he would know if a new line was a carrier he kept these seperate from his show birds . i culed for color the last Head and body type or conformation the head was the fun one the best girl had vulture hocks Grrrrr so i basically went with the Bigger flaws left first. Vulture hocks , off color , too much white and then body type ................... this really hurts . If you can pray for them i am just still kinda in shock even how this guy got my info was a friends ad on CL he showed up at roys and roy told him about me this guy is on my List and not the christmas one either 

this is so sad.
I learned quite a bit from this last few posts. I had no idea how easily something could spread. Its kind of scary.

 

[Tammy N]

Quote: shark , This is a Good lesson to learn i just learned it and i feel is anyone can learn from my mistake then i have accomplished something for the better of the animals . I am changing my ways NO ONE can come here NO ONE gets in with my birds and NO ONE will get one from me if i have to cull they will go to freezer camp . I also bought shoe covers for the protection of my parrot and myself i have a whole out fit i will be putting on for a top and bottom i bought heavy duty Garbage sacks Cut a hole for my neck and arms then using a belt for my waist and then my washable fishing gear for pants and rubber boots my neighbors are Laughing their butts off and told me i looks like something from out of a cartoon but they know why and are glad i thought of this this is for safty of my animals for inside the house who are not sick My african grey parrt ive had sine egg hood my cats and my dog . so what id rather look funny then take a chance until my good stuff gets here oh and shoe covers for my rubber boots i can drop in a 50 g bucket of bleach water and then let dry

 

[Shark Akhrrana]

shark , This is a Good lesson to learn i just learned it and i feel is anyone can learn from my mistake then i have accomplished something for the better of the animals . I am changing my ways NO ONE can come here NO ONE gets in with my birds and NO ONE will get one from me if i have to cull they will go to freezer camp . I also bought shoe covers for the protection of my parrot and myself i have a whole out fit i will be putting on for a top and bottom i bought heavy duty Garbage sacks Cut a hole for my neck and arms then using a belt for my waist and then my washable fishing gear for pants and rubber boots my neighbors are Laughing their butts off and told me i looks like something from out of a cartoon but they know why and are glad i thought of this this is for safty of my animals for inside the house who are not sick My african grey parrt ive had sine egg hood my cats and my dog . so what id rather look funny then take a chance until my good stuff gets here oh and shoe covers for my rubber boots i can drop in a 50 g bucket of bleach water and then let dry 

I knew a lady who had show dogs And she had anyone who came to her house step onto a pan thing with bleach water. And just like you said they had to to wear covering. I thought it was a bit silly at the time. Now I know better.

 

[Tim63]

Tim If i have to euthanize my birds it will be about 6 months before i can actually get show birds again the chicks i bought as day olds from a show breeder cost me a fortune patron and his girls i was blessed with they have been vaccionated for this and other diseases .

i will need a good mentor and promise no one on my property ever .

is there a good list for things to have on hand

like different Vaccines and meds that should always be in my Bird Fridge where i will have anything i need for them ?

What exactly were the results of the necropsy? If it was in fact ILT, you will obviously need to vaccinate all future birds for it. You need to talk to breeders of good reputation in your area and find out what they vaccinate for. Diseases are spread by wild birds, mosquitos, some lay dormant in the soil for years. Sometimes birds brought in from other parts of the country are exposed to diseases (soil or air born) and just die. I'm sure the fellow you are angry with had no bad intention toward you or your birds. He may not have brought the disease at all? It happens, hard lesson. I have lost birds before to dog attack, sickness, and weather. It hurts, its a helpless feeling I know. Put this in your bank of knowledge and continue mission. You and your birds will be better for it in the long run. It causes some to quit. Don't quit.

Tim

 

[Tim63]

BTW, some ILT vaccines can spread the disease to non-vaccinated birds. I'm getting in to an area that I'm not qualified to talk about really, so Clare PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong. There is shedding and non-shedding ILT vaccine. I think the non-shedding is the best because it will not affect non-vaccinated birds.

Tim

 

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The cat wanted to play but the Brahma did not.