BYC Genetic/Breed Calculator Huge Task Ahead!

[Amer]

With extended black and birchen, and dilutions of it such as blue, lavender, white, etc. the id+ pigment is enhanced, from which we get much darker shanks. Which is why I can get dark shanks on my Luna, splash d'Anver, probably split to lavender some where, we can't make heads or tails of her.
So these enhancers are called E/E or ER/ER.
To get clear yellows on black based birds we need eWH, eb, or ey or something else? (I think it is ID/ID the dermal melanin inhibitor, but I don't know) It is not completely understood. Sometimes the females will have dermal pigment while the males may have clear legs with our ER/ER birds.
Light undercolor in blacks and no leg pigment (yellow or white) are linked.
Cuckoo coloring can dilute black shanks to white.
Blue or recessive white may only dilute the shank coloring to blue.
Belgian mottled birds have blue/slate shanks. Since d'Anvers often have this color, I might assume that mottling doesn't dilute it.
White d'Anvers have pale shanks. I don't know about the type of white though.

 

[Amer]

I thought you said britiish?

That is with the Orloff group. I have the ABA bantam standard. I will add more leg color genes soon. Just wait.

 

[Rose Quartz]

interesting bit of info that might be useful to know.
human
male:XY Female:XX

Chicken
Male: ZZ Female: ZW

it is the female genetics that determine male or female in chickens.
also the W chromosome is smaller than the Z chromosome. which is what affects the sex linking.

ex: female barred rocks have a single copy of the barring gene. it is attached to the Z and not the W.

^u^

 

[Amer]

A lot of these genes won't need to be added to the calculator, since we don't know which belong to which breeds. Id/Id and id+ maybe? How could we tell which breeds had Dermal Melanin inhibited? Does this even make sense?
Id/Id inhibits Dermal Melanin
Ida/Ida (the a is small like an exponent) Ancona mottled pigment
Idc/Idc Some stuff that isn't important for calculating leg color.
idM/idM pigment expressed on day-old chicks. Is this present with d'Anvers, because they have dark legs as chicks, while Ameraucanas aren't? (You can see my focus breed is d'Anvers by now hopefully)
id+ regular dermal melanin, not expressed on day-old chicks
Here is my source, a useful one at that, though a lot of the genes listed you will never find because they are rare and random: http://www.edelras.nl/chickengenetics/mutations2.html#gen_mut_leg
This source also has eye color and a bunch of other junk that would really help us. A lot.

 

[Amer]

interesting bit of info that might be useful to know.
human
male:XY Female:XX

Chicken
Male: ZZ Female: ZW

it is the female genetics that determine male or female in chickens.
also the W chromosome is smaller than the Z chromosome. which is what affects the sex linking.

ex: female barred rocks have a single copy of the barring gene. it is attached to the Z and not the W.

^u^

Whoah. That explains so much. Check out the link I just found. Soooooo useful. ^^^^^ previous post by me.

 

[Rose Quartz]

A lot of these genes won't need to be added to the calculator, since we don't know which belong to which breeds. Id/Id and id+ maybe? How could we tell which breeds had Dermal Melanin inhibited? Does this even make sense?
Id/Id inhibits Dermal Melanin
Ida/Ida (the a is small like an exponent) Ancona mottled pigment
Idc/Idc Some stuff that isn't important for calculating leg color.
idM/idM pigment expressed on day-old chicks. Is this present with d'Anvers, because they have dark legs as chicks, while Ameraucanas aren't? (You can see my focus breed is d'Anvers by now hopefully)
id+ regular dermal melanin, not expressed on day-old chicks
Here is my source, a useful one at that, though a lot of the genes listed you will never find because they are rare and random: http://www.edelras.nl/chickengenetics/mutations2.html#gen_mut_leg
This source also has eye color and a bunch of other junk that would really help us. A lot.

I thought the melanin inhibited would make for the difference between.... ugh those 2 breeds.....? both have black legs one has yellow on the bottom of their feet the other has white. You would think I would start remembering the names by now. I've seen this before. I know MillersFarm is the one who knows what breeds these 2 birds are. they both have black feathers and black legs. but one has white feet and the other yellow....

- I'm falling asleep here everybody. while reading genetics lol

I finally got on that website that I had to wait for an admin to get on to.

 

[Amer]

I thought the melanin inhibited would make for the difference between.... ugh those 2 breeds.....? both have black legs one has yellow on the bottom of their feet the other has white. You would think I would start remembering the names by now. I've seen this before. I know @MillersFarm is the one who knows what breeds these 2 birds are. they both have black feathers and black legs. but one has white feet and the other yellow....

- I'm falling asleep here everybody. while reading genetics lol

I finally got on that website that I had to wait for an admin to get on to.

Oh yeah, those, I'll go check, but I don't think that's it. I'm pretty sure it is controlled by the white gene. (Australorp and Jersey Giant I've had both, but that's not what I learned it from.)
ETA:white and yellow are controlled by the W+/W+ gene.
ETA#2 the soles are affected by the E genes. W+/W+id+/id+ER/ER is white soles
w/wid+/id+ER/Er is yellow soles. I'm getting the hang of reading the strange language of genetics!

 

[Rose Quartz]

Whoah. That explains so much. Check out the link I just found. Soooooo useful. ^^^^^ previous post by me.

I wish they had done some work on eggs. I still have yet to find the inhibiting gene info I'm looking for. It has been suggested in lots of places I've been looking that the pink color shell in normally blue egg laying hens is due to a color inhibitor. but so far nothing definitive.

 

[Kiki]

Is there a list of all the genes anywhere?

 

[Rose Quartz]

Oh yeah, those, I'll go check, but I don't think that's it. I'm pretty sure it is controlled by the white gene. (Australorp and Jersey Giant I've had both, but that's not what I learned it from.)
ETA:white and yellow are controlled by the W+/W+ gene.

I only really glanced at the link you shared. I'm still trying to concentrate on these eggs.