BYC Genetic/Breed Calculator Huge Task Ahead!

[Amer]

The genetics behind Barring, Cuckoo, Lacing, Columbian, Penciling, Double Lacing, etc.

Easy peasy lemon squeezy.

Barring- sexlinked. Mother barred father nonbarred- barred male children. Females get the non barring gene from the father.
B/B male
B/- female
Cuckoo is the same as barring but with the fast feathering gene.
Lacing takes more than one gene. It is required to have either a birchen E/E gene or a partridge e^b/e^b gene.
To keep it simple we will go Sebright style, Birchen
So E/E
Columbian Co/Co
Pattern Gene Pg/Pg
Darkbrown gene Db/Db
Melanized Ml/Ml
The full genotype for gold laced female is ERER CoCo DbDb PgPg MlMl Cha+Cha+ mh+mh+di+di+ Ig+Ig+ cb+cb+ i+i+ bl+bl+ Lav+Lav+ C+C+Mo+Mo+ b+- s+- Choc+-
Male ERER CoCo DbDb PgPg MlMl Cha+Cha+ mh+mh+di+di+ Ig+Ig+ cb+cb+ i+i+ bl+bl+ Lav+Lav+ C+C+Mo+Mo+ b+b+ s+s+ Choc+Choc+
Penciling and double lacing can have many meanings.
Partridge is controlled by the e^b gene
Double lacing is controlled by e^b and Pg genes so silver pencilled
Females are
ebeb co+co+ Cha+Cha+ mh+mh+ di+di+Ig+Ig+ cb+cb+ i+i+ bl+bl+ Lav+Lav+ C+C+ Mo+Mo+ db+db+ ml+ml+ PgPg b+- S- Choc+-
Silver pencilled males are ebeb co+co+ Cha+Cha+ mh+mh+ di+di+Ig+Ig+ cb+cb+ i+i+ bl+bl+ Lav+Lav+ C+C+ Mo+Mo+ db+db+ ml+ml+ PgPg b+b+ SS Choc+Choc+


Uh oh, this is becoming more difficult. If I need to clarify any of this raw information, just ask.

 

[Cyprus]

Uh oh, this is becoming more difficult. If I need to clarify any of this raw information, just ask.

Yes. I am lost, please find me

 

[Amer]

Yes. I am lost, please find me

Ask a legitimate question about what need clarifying then.


I didn't add the genotype to barring because I clarified the gene so you can put barring on things other than black. Like crele.

 

[Cyprus]

Ask a legitimate question about what need clarifying then.


I didn't add the genotype to barring because I clarified the gene so you can put barring on things other than black. Like crele.

Nvm. I reread and understand.

 

[Amer]

Nvm. I reread and understand.

Sorry if it is confusing. I copied and pasted the genotypes from Kippenjungle and they don't use backslashes unfortunately.

 

[Amer]

Whip me! I amn't doing my job! Give me a pattern to investigate @Cyprus!

 

[Cyprus]

Whip me! I amn't doing my job! Give me a pattern to investigate @Cyprus!

Investigate the gene and relationship of the pattern when mixed with other patterns.
Pick one from this list:
Columbian
Partridge
Laced
Double Laced
Barred/Cuckoo
Duckwing (gold and silver)
Spangled (Red and Gold)
Mille Fleur
Mottled
Splash
BBR
Red Pyle
Black Tailed

 

[Amer]

Columbian is easy. It is controlled by one gene Co/Co
Unfortunately in reacts extremely with other genes.
On wild type e+ you get gold columbian.
On extended black E you get black. (Obviously)
On birchen Er it gives you gold neck birchen (brown red)
On Wheaten e^wh you get gold columbian
On partridge e^b you get gold columbian.
Back to duckwing e+ columbian
Darkbrown Db gives you less hackle markings on columbian
Interestingly, on birchen it gives you less hackle markings on columbian with Db.
On Wheaten e^wh and Dark brown Db you get gold unicolor as a possibility. I would like to see that color in real life for myself.
Unsurprisingly the opposite of this is silver unicolor, which looks basically white. It has sexlinking potential I s'pose.
Partridge and dark brown and columbian gives you less hackle markings again.
Pattern gene and partridge keeps it gold columbian with less hackle markings.
Pattern gene with Ml melanotic columbian co and partridge e^b gives you gold lace
The lacing is incomplete when you have pg/pg, Ml/Ml, Co/Co, e+/e+
e+/e+, Co/Co, Db/Db, pg/pg, Ml/Ml spangling
If the Er/Er, Co/Co, Db/Db, pg/pg, Ml/Ml actually gives you gold laced
gold quail can be achieved even with the columbian gene. Just add the Ml melanotic gene. It is possible. Charcoal cha can be added as well but doesn't give a complete quail pattern.
Quail can be achieved in partridge e^b as well but the charcoal gene.......




Gives you lakenvelder! Yes! An e^b/e^b, co/co, cha/cha is lakenvelder.
e^b/e^b, co/co, Db/Db, cha/cha gives you moorhead (black head if has to do with Silkies a lot so we shall not speak of it)
Same with e+/e+, co/co, Db/Db, cha/cha it gives you moorhead.
This is as much as I can figure out right now as I am tired but am conscious enough to know what I wrote makes sense to no one but myself. So ask for explanations.
Didn't do other genes because they dilute stuff so the pattern is still the same.
@BlackHackle did you know all this about your black hackle?

 

[Amer]

Partridge e^b should be easier I don't have to list multiple e genes. Unfortunately I will have a lot of repeats.


Partridge e^b gives you a partridge pattern.
Partridge e^b and columbian co gives columbian.
e^b/e^b, co/co, Db/Db is Columbian with less hackle markings.
e^b/e^b, db/db Columbian with less hackle markings still.
e^b/e^b, db/db, Pg/Pg transverse pencilled
e^b/e^b, Pg/Pg pencilled
e^b/e^b, Pg/Pg, Ml/Ml double laced
e^b/e^b, Db/Db, Pg/Pg, Ml/Ml spangled- a very purty color.
e^b/e^b, Pg/Pg, Cha/Cha makes extended black partridge
e^b/e^b, Ml/Ml, Cha/Cha gives you extended black partridge on males but extended black patterned partridge(halfspangled/laced?) On females. Go figure.
e^b/e^b, co/co, cha/cha is lakenvelder.
e^b/e^b, co/co, Db/Db, cha/cha gives you moorhead (black head if has to do with Silkies a lot so we shall not speak of it)
I am going to contemplate how to make this less confusing now.

 

[BlackHackle]

Partridge e^b should be easier I don't have to list multiple e genes. Unfortunately I will have a lot of repeats.


Partridge e^b gives you a partridge pattern.
Partridge e^b and columbian co gives columbian.
e^b/e^b, co/co, Db/Db is Columbian with less hackle markings.
e^b/e^b, db/db Columbian with less hackle markings still.
e^b/e^b, db/db, Pg/Pg transverse pencilled
e^b/e^b, Pg/Pg pencilled
e^b/e^b, Pg/Pg, Ml/Ml double laced
e^b/e^b, Db/Db, Pg/Pg, Ml/Ml spangled- a very purty color.
e^b/e^b, Pg/Pg, Cha/Cha makes extended black partridge
e^b/e^b, Ml/Ml, Cha/Cha gives you extended black partridge on males but extended black patterned partridge(halfspangled/laced?) On females. Go figure. I am going to contemplate how to make this less confusing now.

As a side, you are discussing what North Americans call partridge or what Netherlands calls partridge?