California - Northern

[capayvalleychick]

OMG, they are the cutest pigs ever, and they get along with chickens. That says a lot since most pigs will eat chickens.

The Kune Kune are considered "small" pigs but they are not potbellies. I saw them at the Heirloom festival in July 2012 and have not stopped thinking about them since. I figure the best way to get over my obsession is to give in to it.

Correction ... American Guinea Hogs are the cutest pigs ever!

They get along with chickens, too. Mine only eat the dead ones. They are also a small pig, but have far superior meat qualities than the PB or KK. I think they are priced much lower, too.

Chiquita, you should know the Kune Kune. I think they are a Kiwi native. AGH are an American heritage breed.

 

[farmhand]

My comment was for birds that were bred from homozygous Blue to homozygous Brown egg layers - and then bred back to blue or brown egg layers. Your egg appears to be tinted - is this correct? It is possible that adding the blue egg gene back in will create a turquoise egg - there is a tint that makes the blue much more vibrant and does not appear green. I suspect some of the hatcheries' birds are not homozygous for the Blue egg gene (and carry only one gene), and you can loose the blue in one generation with this type of breeding.

@ChickNmamma
1. Thanks for your help in understanding all this.
2. I need to study homozygous genes so I can understand what you are trying to teach me.
3. Figuring out which of my EE's is laying the cream white egg so I can move her to the Cream Legbar pen has proved difficult as they are both stealth layers. I don't want to move the wrong one as I am breeding the green layer with my Marans Ro.

 

[tommysgirl]

googled Kune Kune pigs and got this

 

[chiqita]

Correction ... American Guinea Hogs are the cutest pigs ever!     They get along with chickens, too. Mine only eat the dead ones. They are also a small pig, but have far superior meat qualities than the PB or KK. I think they are priced much lower, too.

Chiquita, you should know the Kune Kune. I think they are a Kiwi native.  AGH are an American heritage breed.

GATEWAY LIVE STOCK!
You realize if I tell mario someone told me to get a pig he will come home with a pig?? I had a pet pig once and it was not a sucess.

You people are going to get me thrown In the pokey!

 

[lawatt]

@ChickNmamma
1. Thanks for your help in understanding all this.
2. I need to study homozygous genes so I can understand what you are trying to teach me.
3. Figuring out which of my EE's is laying the cream white egg so I can move her to the Cream Legbar pen has proved difficult as they are both stealth layers. I don't want to move the wrong one as I am breeding the green layer with my Marans Ro.

homozygous genes just means that the two genes (one from dad, one form mom) are the same -- heterozygous means the two genes in the pair are different. usually genes that are dominant are put in capital letters, and recessive genes in lower case -- with egg shell color (not the brown overlay), the only options are white and blue, and blue is dominant, so the options are:

homozygous BB = blue egg
heterozygous Bb = blue egg, but 50% of the offspring should receive the b gene, which means white egg if the other parent is b
homozygous bb = white egg

genes can also have incomplete dominance, so that the heterozygous combination of genes looks different than either of the two homozygous versions -- so, as an example, the gene that controls black, blue, and splash would be written this way:

homozygous BB = black
heterozygous Bb = blue
homozygous bb = splash

hope this helps! as Ron said, the brown overlay is controlled by something like 8 different genes, not just a single pair, so it gets much more complicated.

 

[tommysgirl]

@capayvalleychick and then found this when I searched for American Guinea Hogs

so you see this only goes to prove that people like to take pics of chickens and pigs together and that Speckled Sussex are smart enough to KNOW that a pigs big ol snout cant get at all of the yumminess so they are willing to wait for leftovers.

 

[tommysgirl]

I am seriously hoping for broody fever to hit my coops! I want babies!!!


@capayvalleychick Hey Kim. In the interest of knowing where my food comes from, I was wondering if you ever raised either the cattle of the hogs at your place then allowed someone else to buy them at processing time. I might be able to get a few families together who are willing to do to share a steer and a hog or more.

 

[farmhand]

homozygous genes just means that the two genes (one from dad, one form mom) are the same -- heterozygous means the two genes in the pair are different. usually genes that are dominant are put in capital letters, and recessive genes in lower case -- with egg shell color (not the brown overlay), the only options are white and blue, and blue is dominant, so the options are:

homozygous BB = blue egg
heterozygous Bb = blue egg, but 50% of the offspring should receive the b gene, which means white egg if the other parent is b
homozygous bb = white egg

genes can also have incomplete dominance, so that the heterozygous combination of genes looks different than either of the two homozygous versions -- so, as an example, the gene that controls black, blue, and splash would be written this way:

homozygous BB = black
heterozygous Bb = blue
homozygous bb = splash

hope this helps! as Ron said, the brown overlay is controlled by something like 8 different genes, not just a single pair, so it gets much more complicated.

Much clearer

Thank you
Just one more question; (Ha! That's a joke.)
In trying to get a OE, what is the difference in going with a Brown (overlay) Ro over a Blue (green) egg hen verses using a blue (Cream Legbar) over a brown layer? I'm looking for pretty colored eggs but like to understand how it works.
Thanks

 

[lawatt]

Much clearer

Thank you
Just one more question; (Ha! That's a joke.)
In trying to get a OE, what is the difference in going with a Brown (overlay) Ro over a Blue (green) egg hen verses using a blue (Cream Legbar) over a brown layer? I'm looking for pretty colored eggs but like to understand how it works.
Thanks

brown over blue = green (shade can vary from light to dark, depending on what shade of brown that breed lays)
brown over green = more green, possibly darker and/or more brownish

so, my Amelias (cream legbar x penedesenca, i.e. blue x brown) lay lovely green eggs, one is fairly pale, the other is more mossy
but my other OEs (isbar x marans, i.e. green x dark brown) lay truly OLIVE eggs, quite a bit darker than the Amelias.

 

[farmhand]

brown over blue = green (shade can vary from light to dark, depending on what shade of brown that breed lays)
brown over green = more green, possibly darker and/or more brownish

so, my Amelias (cream legbar x penedesenca, i.e. blue x brown) lay lovely green eggs, one is fairly pale, the other is more mossy
but my other OEs (isbar x marans, i.e. green x dark brown) lay truly OLIVE eggs, quite a bit darker than the Amelias.

So it doesn't matter if you breed brown over blue verses blue over brown?