Cary Chicken Ban

[EweSheep]

Cary-------------HOA city!

I bet Cary folks will MOVE out of the city....there goes the tax dollars! Issue yearly permits and inspections might change the councilmen's mind and more tax dollars working for the city. Follow the same example for the city of Seattle, who started all the rave for urban chickens! There are folks who take classes for caring and selecting chickens.

I have to disagree with in most of your difference in opinions of folks having chickens but some rules can be made to change as times changes. Rules made a long time ago may not apply to today's standards.

 

[emandmikey]

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Don, It is condescending, close-minded, uninformed people like you who are making the decisions, not the people of Cary. The majority haven't had the chance to give their opinion on this issue yet, and the ones who have were mostly in support of the issue. I hope the lackadaisical approach by the town council members isn't representative of what Cary citizens are like. I love how you say you don't want the "smell, the noise, nor the vermin", this is just showing us your ignorance on the issue at hand. It looks like you haven't done your "homework" before making these statements. I suggest you educate yourself a little more before coming on this forum and saying such hubris things as "I'd like to make something very clear to all of you". As if we don't understand the situation and you need to clear it up for us. We aren't a bunch of Third grade children who will be brow-beaten into submission, we are educated, environmentally conscious, and proactive individuals with minds of our own, Thank You!

 

[BlueMoon]

Our cute little village banned chickens circa 1895 as they were trying to appear gentrified - a new type of homeowner for a now upscale community, no longer agriculturally based.
Not sure how I'll argue the point of wanting to keep my chickens if I ever move back into the village, but it's interesting to see how the Cary town council seems to have the same thoughts as was popular over a hundred years ago. Not values as much as prejudices and a fear of appearing "hick".

So many people in our country are moving towards the health and security of growing and raising our own food. It's a shame many local officials find this inappropriate. I happen to find it hypocritical that someone will eat chicken only when it originates in shrink wrap or at a restaurant.

The only decent argument I've heard against chickens in town was how to dispose of the dead ones. Dead chickens do not belong in the neighborhood trash for dumpster day and I don't believe they should ever be composted. We have a small funeral pyre for ours, which I believe to be the most sanitary way, and that would definitely not fly in the village!

 

[SewingDiva]

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Wow - Don you clearly have the view of "If you not with us, you're against us". Every citizen in this country has a constitutional right to change local law, and you can't take that way from them.

Thank goodness we have come full circle and your jack-boot politics are on the way out.

~Phyllis

 

[mango1612]

Mr. Hyatt, I think that you should drive through somewhere like Five Points in Raleigh. These people who would be keeping chickens would have their chickens in a very similar way. They are kept in town, on smaller lots, and live in clean, neat coops. Perhaps, if you haven't, try thinking of them beyond messy farm animals, and as just pets.

I'd like to make something very clear to all of you. Councilman Frantz and the others who voted against wasting our town staff's time are reflecting the will of their constituents. We do not want chickens, goats, bee hives, etc... in our family friendly neighborhoods. Most of us aren't interested in bean sprouts on our burgers either. We don't want the smell, the noise, nor the vermin attracted by having by having barnyard animals on typical suburban lots.

*I don't think it's about the "bean sprout" people, it's ordinary people of nearly every type. And it's not about goats or pigs or donkeys or any other barnyard animal. It's chickens, and probably no more than a few. Which are quieter than dogs, smell less than any dog's feces, and will not keep you awake barking at night. People pulling for chickens in Cary aren't going to be raising them in large numbers, and they will be pets. Think of them as exotic pets. If we could feasibly keep them inside, I think people would.

Cary does allow such on 1 acre lots where there is enough of (hopefully) a buffer between your chickens and our cats and dogs. ...and we especially don't like having backyard chickens forced on us by those that obviously didn't do their homework before moving to Cary.

*There have been many many cities (yes, LARGE cities) who have changed the rules. Rules change for a variety of reasons.

The "enlightenment " of their previous community didn't seemingly translate into to doing a little research before they moved all the way across the country. If they wanted urban chickens, they should have moved to Chapel Hill. They could probably have enticed that city council into letting them be raised in the council chamber itself.

*Chickens are allowed in Chapel Hill. And Raleigh. And New York. And as I said before, many cities.

In brief, don't move to Cary and try to change it to suit your needs. We like it just the way it is.


Don Hyatt
webmaster
carypolitics.org

GO CARY CHICKENS!

 

[manfre]

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I appreciate your concern, but sadly you are speaking without understanding the situation or many of the facts related to it. As shown by your comments on your own forum, your "intelligent" political discussion consists primarily of pathetic attempts at jokes. If a majority of the citizens were so opposed, why did only 4 people send emails in opposition to this (you were not one of them)? I realize that there could be people who spoke directly with the council members or called up to complain, but there are no records for such phone calls. Don Frantz, stated on his blog that response was "50/50 - honestly". If the community is split on an issue, shouldn't a representative investigate it so he could make a discission upon facts?

You incorrectly stated that Cary allows chickens on lots larger than an acre. The actual zoning for the town states that R-40 lots allow chickens. During the last CTC meeting, Jack Smith stated that such zoning has been used as a placeholder for larger lots and it was not the intention of using them for agricultural purposes. That statement shows that the CTC would probably vote against rezoning a residential lot to R-40. There are also many lots in my neighborhood that are over 1 acre that do not allow chickens.

The "enlightened" community that you are attempting to belittle is NYC, which actually is a world class city that does allow chickens. When purchasing a house, we researched everything that concerned us prior to moving in. Chickens were not a thought until a couple of months later.

"In brief, don't move to Cary and try to change it to suit your needs. We like it just the way it is."

It's disturbing to think that some one who runs a political discussion website would be so ignorant about the purpose of politics and the history of this town. I guess you have no interest in the site beyond trying to generate ad revenue. By your statement, there should be chickens in Cary because it was allowed until some outsiders moved in and changed it to suit their needs.

BTW, the native american tribes would like you to

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[EweSheep]

Good VALID points, BYC folks!

As for vermin and smells, maybe the ban on birdfeeders, stray dogs and cats, animal horders and junk horders may be in your town....take a good hard look and I bet you will find some within a mile radius! Vermin love those areas! Even you have sewer rats, they were there at the time the city built sewers!!!!!

Closed minded folks like yourself, Mr. Hyatt, need a reality check! Go visit those wonderful city chicken folks and I am certain they will be happy to show you around their wonderful birds and set ups.

Manfre, love your comment of the Native American tribes!

 

[chcknrs]

Okay folks, dhyatt had the nerve to join this website and tell us all off in an ignoramous sort of way, and happened to allow his email link on his post, so instead of giving it to him in the forum, how about also sending emails!? Snowball!!!!!!

 

[dhyatt]

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Good luck with that. And I don't get any ad revenue. It's all volunteer and I speak for the vast majority, you'll just have to trust me on this.

 

[dhyatt]

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If we wanted to live like Native Americans, we would. We don't.