Cochin Thread!!!

Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by Settler'sDreamFarm, Jun 7, 2009.

  1. Mr. Ree

    Mr. Ree Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Elinor's chicks :

    I only have one cochin in my tiny mixed flock, a pullet that I got from a breeder here on BYC. I bought her as a pet and that's what I got. I don't have any illusions about her quality, I'm just curious. Compared to a lot of the photos I'm seeing here, her feathers are narrow. The feathers I see here - especally on the tail - are much wider. She is nice and round, with the usual cochin fluffy cushion, it's just the individual feathers that are narrow.

    Is that just a flaw? Are wide tail feathers something you all breed for? Or can I expect a change after her first molt? (yes, I'm sure she is a she - she started laying a couple of weeks ago)

    Oh for more room......for more cochins!!

    https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/41928_91011_004.jpg

    If you look more closely at her feathers, its not just the feathers in her cushion. The feathers on her shoulders and on her back look very narrow as well. I have never had to deal with this in any birds, and not sure how you would. I am noy sure if it is a genetic thing of not, I am sure Tom or Craig will be able to explain things a bit better. I will say though, I really love her color.


    ~Casey​
     
  2. Elinor's chicks

    Elinor's chicks Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Quote:Is this the little girl you got from me?? That's strange, I've never seen feathers this narrow. Wonder what's up with that, hopefully somebody can fill us in~

    Yep, that's the little one I got from you. She's a hoot - more like a puppy than a chicken. She even begs! When she sees me with a tomato, she sits up, bounces and stretches out her neck toward my hand, like 'please, please, I want some." My others, a bantam Brahma and 2 bantam Orpingtons, are sweet, but well, more like ..... chickens! ha - ha
     
  3. wildwoodcochins

    wildwoodcochins Chillin' With My Peeps

    Elinor's chicks :

    Quote:Is this the little girl you got from me?? That's strange, I've never seen feathers this narrow. Wonder what's up with that, hopefully somebody can fill us in~

    Yep, that's the little one I got from you. She's a hoot - more like a puppy than a chicken. She even begs! When she sees me with a tomato, she sits up, bounces and stretches out her neck toward my hand, like 'please, please, I want some." My others, a bantam Brahma and 2 bantam Orpingtons, are sweet, but well, more like ..... chickens! ha - ha​

    I will post pictures of her mom and dad and maybe that will help to figure it out!
    This is her mom, the wind is blowing up her tail in this picture but she has normal feathers:
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    And this is daddy: This is also Lacey (mommy) again when she was much younger, she really grew up and changed a lot between the 2 pictures!
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    I'll try to find better pictures of them tonight~
     
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  4. wildwoodcochins

    wildwoodcochins Chillin' With My Peeps

    Elinor's chicks :

    Quote:Is this the little girl you got from me?? That's strange, I've never seen feathers this narrow. Wonder what's up with that, hopefully somebody can fill us in~

    Yep, that's the little one I got from you. She's a hoot - more like a puppy than a chicken. She even begs! When she sees me with a tomato, she sits up, bounces and stretches out her neck toward my hand, like 'please, please, I want some." My others, a bantam Brahma and 2 bantam Orpingtons, are sweet, but well, more like ..... chickens! ha - ha​

    Sounds like she has mommy's personality, Lacey is the sweetest chicken I have, she can't wait for me to pick her up and hold her~
     
  5. lilcrow

    lilcrow Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Quote:Sorry fattie, I think I was preoccupied with my stuff here and the Zanesville issue. They look very familiar to me (Ha) I wonder why........
    I see them all the time, as a matter of fact I've most likely seen some of those chicks in person not so very long ago. They are lovely of course.
    Nancy

    Ummm, not sure what you mean? [​IMG] How would you have seen them in person? I am in MD, you are in Ohio?

    Since I see Mandy's birds all the time, I thought possibly the Mottled juveniles were a pair that you got from her. I was down there not very long ago and saw this years offspring. Plus, your own chicks look a lot like their parents (Mandy's breeding) that's all I meant. If I'm mistaken I apologize, I shouldn't have made assumptions.
     
  6. thecochincoop

    thecochincoop Chillin' With My Peeps

    Quote:Ummm, not sure what you mean? [​IMG] How would you have seen them in person? I am in MD, you are in Ohio?

    Since I see Mandy's birds all the time, I thought possibly the Mottled juveniles were a pair that you got from her. I was down there not very long ago and saw this years offspring. Plus, your own chicks look a lot like their parents (Mandy's breeding) that's all I meant. If I'm mistaken I apologize, I shouldn't have made assumptions.

    you were right about the blue mottleds. I showed them to you one time you were here right before I shipped them out
     
  7. lilcrow

    lilcrow Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Quote:Since I see Mandy's birds all the time, I thought possibly the Mottled juveniles were a pair that you got from her. I was down there not very long ago and saw this years offspring. Plus, your own chicks look a lot like their parents (Mandy's breeding) that's all I meant. If I'm mistaken I apologize, I shouldn't have made assumptions.

    you were right about the blue mottleds. I showed them to you one time you were here right before I shipped them out

    Thanks Mandy, I thought they looked like yours..........
     
  8. Beth G.

    Beth G. Gaetano Family Farm

    The dam of this chicken suffers from an immunospressed syndrome. The dam has had a chronic illness somewhere in its breeding line that has caused damage to the melanocytes in her genetic make up. Which means in lemans terms. Her offspring could pop up with irregluar shaped feathering due to her genetics. You can read up on this online I believe.

    I have a friend who went to Cornell for Poulrty Science and has taught me alot over the years on how to cull for breeding. This is one thing he showed me on a bird at a show in RI. I just called him to have him explain it again. He said he would not breed your cochin b/c her genetics will cause the same defects in feather. He's seen this alot in chickens who have contracted Mycoplasma gallisepticum. He said it's a delayed amelanatic (sp) line in the Galla. That's all he could elaborate on b/c he had to go.

    Hope this helps!

    Edited**** ps he said you could call your state tester and have them come out and do a blood test for M.G. That way you can know for sure if you really are curious and want to know. He said M.G. is spread from chicken to the egg.
    Elinor's chicks :

    I only have one cochin in my tiny mixed flock, a pullet that I got from a breeder here on BYC. I bought her as a pet and that's what I got. I don't have any illusions about her quality, I'm just curious. Compared to a lot of the photos I'm seeing here, her feathers are narrow. The feathers I see here - especally on the tail - are much wider. She is nice and round, with the usual cochin fluffy cushion, it's just the individual feathers that are narrow.

    Is that just a flaw? Are wide tail feathers something you all breed for? Or can I expect a change after her first molt? (yes, I'm sure she is a she - she started laying a couple of weeks ago)

    Oh for more room......for more cochins!!

    https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/41928_91011_004.jpg
     
    Last edited: Oct 20, 2011
  9. WestKnollAmy

    WestKnollAmy The Crazy Chicken Lady

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    Quote:Look at Cowboy's daughter, NellaBean! And she isn't out of the hens I wanted to put with him before you took him back! She stays on the go all the time and it is hard to photograph her. I named her Giddyup.

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    And here is his son, Roper.

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    If I already posted these, I am sorry to repeat myself. I am on so many delightful threads. [​IMG]
     
  10. NellaBean

    NellaBean Graceland Farms

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    Those are some cute kids....always exciting to see them grow up. The flashy mottled cockerel I have growing up is starting to widen.....definitely looking better these days. He was a really late bloomer.....I bet in a few months he will look great.
     

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