Cochin Thread!!!

Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by Settler'sDreamFarm, Jun 7, 2009.

  1. RedBugPoultry

    RedBugPoultry Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I do not get a lot of time to read this thread but I see such pretty birds of peoples on here!

    That said I do have a question....I have a quad of gold laced LF cochins. This is the first year I have hatched from them and I admit I have sold all the chicks but a few that I have held on too. One of the little cockerels I have kept I just noticed has really yellow legs--the hens I have hatched and kept do not but he does. He is free ranging and will not let me get close enough to take a picture but the question is -- is this ok? My adult rooster does not have real dark yellow legs nor any of the hens. Is it something that will change as he grows? His legs are so feathered I had not noticed it before. [​IMG]
     
  2. Blue

    Blue Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Quote:Cochins are supposed to have yellow legs. If they have dark legs, their feet should still have yellow soles.
     
  3. Funky Feathers

    Funky Feathers former Fattie

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    Quote:Ummm, not sure what you mean? [​IMG] How would you have seen them in person? I am in MD, you are in Ohio?

    Since I see Mandy's birds all the time, I thought possibly the Mottled juveniles were a pair that you got from her. I was down there not very long ago and saw this years offspring. Plus, your own chicks look a lot like their parents (Mandy's breeding) that's all I meant. If I'm mistaken I apologize, I shouldn't have made assumptions.

    Oh, yes, all my Splash and the mottled pair are from Mandy's line. I was just confused by what you said, that's all. Now it makes sense. [​IMG] I am proud to have birds of her line, they are amazing. [​IMG]
     
  4. Coopa Cabana

    Coopa Cabana My Coop Runneth Over . . .

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    So I have really messed up. [​IMG] There haven't been any eggs to collect for a couple of weeks, and I thought nothing of it, as the days are getting so short, it's near freezing at night now, and most everyone is either molting or broody. There have been NO eggs what-so-ever in the usual places.

    Well, by now you can guess what greeted me out in the coop this morning - peaking out from under one of the broody hens! [​IMG] And I feel so guilty - not only because I obviously missed some eggs they were hiding from me, but mainly because the very first thing this innocent little chick heard me say was "Oh C_ _ p!"

    I'm almost afraid to go home tonight and see if there are any more little suprises waiting for me.

    I've never had any unplanned chicks before - and never out in the community coop - and never without pre-arranged matings. Guess I will try and set up a little nursery for them tonight - they certainly can't drink and feed with the adults.

    I suppose the good thing is that I know for sure at least what one half of the chick is - as the only 2 males out in the coop are Golden Laced. But as far as potential mother hens, the possibilities are 3 Golden Laced, 3 F1 BLR, or 1 Mille Fleur.

    [​IMG]
     
  5. tiki244

    tiki244 Flock Mistress

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    What a surprise. [​IMG] I bet it is cute though. I mean how cant it be. Bad timing isnt it? And thanks for the warning, I havent been collecting too many eggs either lately. Hmm better go check every nook and cranny.

    Stephanie I love your chickens.

    And thanks guys for filling me in on Zanesville. I finally saw something on tv last night at 1 am (this morning) I guess they found the monkey in one of the tiger's stomaches. They were some horrific pictures of large dead animals. .
     
  6. Black Cochin Bantams

    Black Cochin Bantams Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Quote:I have 2 of those unexpected chicks that are now 6-7 weeks old. Columbian hen x Black male. My chicks have done fine under the hen. Hope they are GL so they will be old and yet less than 1 at next years RMFF show. Again I can't say how nice it was to meet you and your friend at the show. Wish I had more time out there.
     
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  7. Elinor's chicks

    Elinor's chicks Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Beth G. :

    The dam of this chicken suffers from an immunospressed syndrome. The dam has had a chronic illness somewhere in its breeding line that has caused damage to the melanocytes in her genetic make up. Which means in layman's terms. Her offspring could pop up with irregluar shaped feathering due to her genetics. You can read up on this online I believe.

    I have a friend who went to Cornell for Poulrty Science and has taught me alot over the years on how to cull for breeding. This is one thing he showed me on a bird at a show in RI. I just called him to have him explain it again. He said he would not breed your cochin b/c her genetics will cause the same defects in feather. He's seen this alot in chickens who have contracted Mycoplasma gallisepticum. He said it's a delayed amelanatic (sp) line in the Galla. That's all he could elaborate on b/c he had to go.

    Hope this helps!

    Edited**** ps he said you could call your state tester and have them come out and do a blood test for M.G. That way you can know for sure if you really are curious and want to know. He said M.G. is spread from chicken to the egg.
    Elinor's chicks :

    I only have one cochin in my tiny mixed flock, a pullet that I got from a breeder here on BYC. I bought her as a pet and that's what I got. I don't have any illusions about her quality, I'm just curious. Compared to a lot of the photos I'm seeing here, her feathers are narrow. The feathers I see here - especally on the tail - are much wider. She is nice and round, with the usual cochin fluffy cushion, it's just the individual feathers that are narrow.

    Is that just a flaw? Are wide tail feathers something you all breed for? Or can I expect a change after her first molt? (yes, I'm sure she is a she - she started laying a couple of weeks ago)

    Oh for more room......for more cochins!!

    https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/41928_91011_004.jpg

    Oh my gosh!! This is scary! I did google some of the terms you mention, especially Mycoplasma gallisepticum, and I think I understand - my pullet is the product of a disease her dam had at one time? Also, half of her toenails turn up, like pixie toes, instead of curving down. Now I assume that is also a manafestation of the genetic defect? No, I had not planned to breed her, and now I really won't.

    But my girl is otherwise healthy herself, right? [​IMG] She is the picture of health - none of the swollen eyes or respiratory distress that I read about.
    - Is she safe to have, and handle?
    - Safe to have around the other birds?
    - Is it safe to eat her eggs? Those were the things I was not clear about as I read.

    Wow! And to think this came from a casual question about what I thought was a cosmetic problem!!!! Thank you for your information.​
     
  8. Elinor's chicks

    Elinor's chicks Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Quote:Surely the hen the chick was under is the Mom, huh? Or do you think she stole an egg to sit on? Why not just put her in a quiet private place and let her raise the chick?
     
  9. Beth G.

    Beth G. Gaetano Family Farm

    Hi,

    I didn't mean to scare you, I'm sorry. He said the best thing to do is have her tested. I say this b/c this is only input from my friend. He said the only way to know is to get the test done and see if it is in her blood. If it is he said it is best to ask your State Vet about handling birds with MG. Believe it or not MG is spread mostly through enviroment and to free range chickens. It could be from the hen or the hen's parents, passed from chicken to egg. Once a carrier always a carrier. But, the way he describe it is the shape of her feathers are non-typical for a cochin hen or pullet. When a chicken is a carrier of a disease like MG that affects genetic make up of the feathering. He's much better at explaining and that is why hear this second hand he and I both suggest you test her for concrete evidence. Then have a professional in your area explain how to handle a flock that has exposure to MG. Most time chickens can be a carrier and never show signs unless put under an huge amount of stress.

    Some state's test for free and others charge a dollar a bird. Don't be worried about a postive test. People will tell you not to do it in fear of the State will make you put the bird down. That is not true. Worst case scenerio is they make you close your flock and not sell birds etc.. And not all state do that. Every state is different. He also suggested calling a state college in your area that may specialize in Ag Science? Here in CT we can call Uconn and get tons of information over the phone with the professors and vets for free. They can help you with questions you may have.

    Best Wishes and [​IMG] to you!!

    Beth
    Elinor's chicks :

    Beth G. :

    The dam of this chicken suffers from an immunospressed syndrome. The dam has had a chronic illness somewhere in its breeding line that has caused damage to the melanocytes in her genetic make up. Which means in layman's terms. Her offspring could pop up with irregluar shaped feathering due to her genetics. You can read up on this online I believe.

    I have a friend who went to Cornell for Poulrty Science and has taught me alot over the years on how to cull for breeding. This is one thing he showed me on a bird at a show in RI. I just called him to have him explain it again. He said he would not breed your cochin b/c her genetics will cause the same defects in feather. He's seen this alot in chickens who have contracted Mycoplasma gallisepticum. He said it's a delayed amelanatic (sp) line in the Galla. That's all he could elaborate on b/c he had to go.

    Hope this helps!

    Edited**** ps he said you could call your state tester and have them come out and do a blood test for M.G. That way you can know for sure if you really are curious and want to know. He said M.G. is spread from chicken to the egg.
    Elinor's chicks :

    I only have one cochin in my tiny mixed flock, a pullet that I got from a breeder here on BYC. I bought her as a pet and that's what I got. I don't have any illusions about her quality, I'm just curious. Compared to a lot of the photos I'm seeing here, her feathers are narrow. The feathers I see here - especally on the tail - are much wider. She is nice and round, with the usual cochin fluffy cushion, it's just the individual feathers that are narrow.

    Is that just a flaw? Are wide tail feathers something you all breed for? Or can I expect a change after her first molt? (yes, I'm sure she is a she - she started laying a couple of weeks ago)

    Oh for more room......for more cochins!!

    https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/41928_91011_004.jpg


    Oh my gosh!! This is scary! I did google some of the terms you mention, especially Mycoplasma gallisepticum, and I think I understand - my pullet is the product of a disease her dam had at one time? Also, half of her toenails turn up, like pixie toes, instead of curving down. Now I assume that is also a manafestation of the genetic defect? No, I had not planned to breed her, and now I really won't.

    But my girl is otherwise healthy herself, right? [​IMG] She is the picture of health - none of the swollen eyes or respiratory distress that I read about.
    - Is she safe to have, and handle?
    - Safe to have around the other birds?
    - Is it safe to eat her eggs? Those were the things I was not clear about as I read.

    Wow! And to think this came from a casual question about what I thought was a cosmetic problem!!!! Thank you for your information.​
     
    Last edited: Oct 20, 2011
  10. lilcrow

    lilcrow Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Elinor's chicks :

    Quote:Surely the hen the chick was under is the Mom, huh? Or do you think she stole an egg to sit on? Why not just put her in a quiet private place and let her raise the chick?

    I personally don't care for broody raised chicks, they NEVER settle down, and if Gail's set up is anything like mine, even in a "pure" pen with only one variety in it, the egg could still have come from ANY hen that is in that run/pen/coop or whatever. I don't think broodies care what egg they are sitting on as long as they get to set. I've also had hens that I KNOW came in the coop and set with the broody and left her egg right there where the broody could work it in under herself. Kind of like leaving an orphan at the door step.​
     

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