Cochin Thread!!!

Hey all.

Went out to the farm and thought i would share some unusual birds a friend is working on. This is the place where all my culls go to be sold or swapped for food.

Here is a girl i found rather fascinating, appears to be an birchen, on a e^b partridge base. Lovely markings around the neck, but the strange fuzzy patterns of a poorly marked partridge.

What do you think?









Here is another cull from a birchen program, again showing great markings, but a rather strange slate grey under colour.

This girl is going through a moult, but you get the picture.




And lastly, my girlfriend holding some rather strange poultry
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Andy the hen in the first 2 pics looks like a poor marked Silver Penciled Cochin. I say poorly because her penciling isn't the best, but she is pretty none the less. Here in the States, a silver based Partridge is a Silver Penciled.
 
Andy the hen in the first 2 pics looks like a poor marked Silver Penciled Cochin. I say poorly because her penciling isn't the best, but she is pretty none the less. Here in the States, a silver based Partridge is a Silver Penciled.

that was my thought. but the "birchen" markings on it are actually pretty good for here. And the under colour is a rusty brown. I saw some very odd birds there. Two rather beautiful partridge cockerels, one with a pure brown chocolate chest, and one with a blue chest. I convinced my friend to keep them, I am very intrigued by the strange partridges he picked up. If I had space they would be right back here for genetic test matings!

This is what most silver pencilled look like here, next to a mottled I culled a while ago

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that was my thought. but the "birchen" markings on it are actually pretty good for here. And the under colour is a rusty brown. I saw some very odd birds there. Two rather beautiful partridge cockerels, one with a pure brown chocolate chest, and one with a blue chest. I convinced my friend to keep them, I am very intrigued by the strange partridges he picked up. If I had space they would be right back here for genetic test matings!

This is what most silver pencilled look like here, next to a mottled I culled a while ago

Very interesting, that Mottled looks rather "Birchen-y." Please tell me that's not the guy you posted on here a while back, from your Partridge program I think. Looks like nice type on both of them. Another VERY interesting thing about your SP - I see that it is a roo and the SP roo over here are completely different. They are literally the silver phase of the Partridge, which makes the roos look more like a Silver Laced roo. How fascinating........
 
I have been doing research to find out if this is a Black Cochin Rooster. His name is George; very friendly, loves to be picked up and talks all the time.

 
Very interesting, that Mottled looks rather "Birchen-y." Please tell me that's not the guy you posted on here a while back, from your Partridge program I think. Looks like nice type on both of them. Another VERY interesting thing about your SP - I see that it is a roo and the SP roo over here are completely different. They are literally the silver phase of the Partridge, which makes the roos look more like a Silver Laced roo. How fascinating........

It is the little mottled that came out of my partridge program, why my friend has put him with this girl i am not entirely sure. All of the SP look very washed out here, and is something i am going to look at creating when i have some decent partridge in the next few years. We see a lot of white chests in our SP, havent figured out why yet.

This project he took over had some very interested birds, once i am done sorting out the pics i will post them. There were creole males, mealy grey hens, some odd birchen culls, and 4 partridge that i convinced him to keep. Unfortunately not the best patterned partridge, but beautiful type. Also some massive black males.

Him and i are trying to figure out why one partridge has a pure blue chest, and the other has a chocolate chest. No black in either, which they are meant to have. Time will tell what they are hiding, but at least now there are two breeders working on partridge!

Here are some of the other culls.

Creole? male with poor birchen


nice black


?dont know? apart from the black


dominant white with leakage i guess.




mealy grey


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Quote: to answer the question about white breasted sp, it's because of the wheaten base probably... what I would do, if you're looking to 'build' a good silver penciled, is to get your partridge line going first, making sure the roos have nice deep black chests, then cross out to a silver *something* and then breed back

as for your "creole" question, it's actually spelled crele (I pronounce it like cr-eel), is barring on a bbr background. technically cochins won't likely be crele since it requires a duckwing bbr pattern.
the "crele people" tend to get a bit irked when someone shows a barred brown-red or similar colored bird and call it crele, tho the results are very similar.
but even so, that roo didn't look barred at all. so no idea what he'd be considered.
 

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