Cochin Thread!!!

[County Boy]

From my understanding of Brown Red and Gold Laced those look closer to Gold Laced than Brown Red

I got them from Lynne. They were from her lemon blues. Her lemon blues carry a mottling gene in the chest..

 

[wife2abirdman]

I am curious, how is this brown red different from golden laced? I mean I get the clear lacing part and I can see obviously the different color of the hen, but I just got some laced cochins with a few feathers that have a similar look. So I guess I am asking is the brown red just a watered down version of laced birds? Please take no offense I am such a newbie to chicken genetics it's not funny. Ask me how to get a buckskin from a black horse or even a champagne from a liver chestnut and I am gold, but chickens genetics are still so new to me.

 

[dak]

I got them from Lynne. They were from her lemon blues. Her lemon blues carry a mottling gene in the chest..

The mottle gene causes white tips on the feathers, not black. This is an example of a partially laced GLC.

 

[dak]

Some are crossing Buffs and and Blues to arrive at a bird that appears somewhat like Lemon Blue and/or Brown Red, but they are not correct in that they are not based on Birchen, and don't breed true.

 

[Black Cochin Bantams]

I am curious, how is this brown red different from golden laced? I mean I get the clear lacing part and I can see obviously the different color of the hen, but I just got some laced cochins with a few feathers that have a similar look. So I guess I am asking is the brown red just a watered down version of laced birds? Please take no offense I am such a newbie to chicken genetics it's not funny. Ask me how to get a buckskin from a black horse or even a champagne from a liver chestnut and I am gold, but chickens genetics are still so new to me.

A Brown Red would be a dark feather with a light outline or think of Brown Red as Birchen that is red based rather than silver based. A Gold Laced is a gold/mahogany feather with a dark laced outline on the feather.

 

[Mr. Ree]

I'll have to find him. I'm focusing my breeding on lemon blues mainly but will have some brown reds. We defianatly should meet up.

His name is Jamie Matts, and he lives in Harpursville (not sure where that is, I am not from NY). He has a website, should find it if you google Jamies Cochin Collection. The birds I started with last Spring were from him.

~Casey

 

[Coopa Cabana]

Lynne has been working long and hard on her LF "Lemon Blues", and she has bred some very striking birds. And I have told her so on numerous occasions. But she will also be the first to tell you that they are "her version" of Lemon Blues. They do not meet the Standardized description of Lemon Blue as it is currently written and accepted.

The only true way to achieve a properly marked and color Lemon Blue, which will also breed true, is to use a Brown Red on a Blue.

You cannot get LF Brown Reds out of Lynne's breeding program, as Lynne does not have LF Brown Reds in her breeding program.

 

[dak]

Lynne has been working long and hard on her LF "Lemon Blues", and she has bred some very striking birds. And I have told her so on numerous occasions. But she will also be the first to tell you that they are "her version" of Lemon Blues. They do not meet the Standardized description of Lemon Blue as it is currently written and accepted.

The only true way to achieve a properly marked and color Lemon Blue, which will also breed true, is to use a Brown Red on a Blue.

You cannot get LF Brown Reds out of Lynne's breeding program, as Lynne does not have LF Brown Reds in her breeding program.

If the Lemon Blues were correct genetically they produce a proportion of Brown reds when bred together.

http://kippenjungle.nl/kruising.html?mgt=E:E^R/E^R,Bl:Bl/bl+&fgt=E:E^R/E^R,Bl:Bl/bl

I wonder if the Blues she used had some lacing genes. Might explain things.

 

[wife2abirdman]

A Brown Red would be a dark feather with a light outline or think of Brown Red as Birchen that is red based rather than silver based. A Gold Laced is a gold/mahogany feather with a dark laced outline on the feather.

I gotcha now thank you.

 

[County Boy]

Lynne has been working long and hard on her LF "Lemon Blues", and she has bred some very striking birds. And I have told her so on numerous occasions. But she will also be the first to tell you that they are "her version" of Lemon Blues. They do not meet the Standardized description of Lemon Blue as it is currently written and accepted.

The only true way to achieve a properly marked and color Lemon Blue, which will also breed true, is to use a Brown Red on a Blue.

You cannot get LF Brown Reds out of Lynne's breeding program, as Lynne does not have LF Brown Reds in her breeding program.

Yes, I know they are her version and I like her "version" but I'm still going to try my luck. Lynne told me she started with a LF brown red hen over a splash rooster to get started.