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[math ace]

Hay Math ace - great to see you chick! I feel like I have not been in the coffee house for ages! But I see the Roooosters can chat away nearly as much as the Hens lol

I am not sure what is killing the girls. It is weird because I am losing one every 4-6 weeks. So I have lost 5 since January and another is sick now. - Infact four out of the 5 I have left show signs of respiritory infection. I am thinking if the Tylan doesn;t work it will be a cull and scrub and hose everything and start over. I am deeply upset at the loss especially as now I
Oes

LOL... Hens versus Roos..

Since your hens are dying slowly, that is a symptom that make help you identify the root of the problem..
Most viruses kill the whole flock quickly, not slowly.

 

[math ace]

Well Big Hello MathAce and Osedog......Good to see you 2 here and keeping busy. .
Anyways enjoy your day
Kaj

BIG HELLO right back at you

I don't know what I would be if I wasn't busy. Is there LIFE out there AFTER children and AFTER taking care of your parents? Will I ever get to slow down and enjoy my morning coffee or will it always be drunk in a gulp???

 

[oesdog]

LOL... Hens versus Roos..

Since your hens are dying slowly, that is a symptom that make help you identify the root of the problem..
Most viruses kill the whole flock quickly, not slowly.

Well that is what I thought too. It is deffinately odd.
I though the first three died from Pneumonia as a lot of folk here lost livestock with the bitter winds that came on off the sea.
Then I found Gerty dead int he yard and I actually thought she died of heart failure because there was no sign of any infection at all. So I was still not convinced - then mable got sick and died within a really short time. She was a really young healthy bird so no reason - not like old Gerty who was close to Bertha her sister and was really upset about her death. Mable had no reason to get sick and die???
Even the coop was changed after the first few deaths. DH says he is going to take any other one that dies to the Vet and ask for them to do tests to find out the cause. Anyhow the girls are sounding better since they have had the Tylan. My little chick is well and doing good but I keep it well clear of the girls. - I soo wanted to put Better with it but Better was rasping a week or so back and so I don;t want to risk anything taking out the chick.
Anyhow you guys hope you have had a happy independence day!

Oes

 

[math ace]

DH says he is going to take any other one that dies to the Vet and ask for them to do tests to find out the cause. Anyhow the girls are sounding better since they have had the Tylan. My little chick is well and doing good but I keep it well clear of the girls. - I soo wanted to put Better with it but Better was rasping a week or so back and so I don;t want to risk anything taking out the chick.
Anyhow you guys hope you have had a happy independence day!

Oes

I hope you don't lose anymore, BUT if you do, let us know what the vet says.

Any chance this was a case of fowl pox... It is a slow killer. It nickel and dimes your flock to death.

We are waiting for the rain to stop so we can light off some fireworks.

 

[quercus21]

BIG HELLO right back at you

I don't know what I would be if I wasn't busy. Is there LIFE out there AFTER children and AFTER taking care of your parents? Will I ever get to slow down and enjoy my morning coffee or will it always be drunk in a gulp???

Yes there is............ Life after children............ We are enjoying it now...... But they will always be "kids" no matter how old they are. Always looking for parents in the time of need. Sooooooooooooooooo. But on the bright side, you can't get into trouble for tipping out of the house when they are home.

There is a saying I like: It's great when they come home, but nicer when they leave.......

They know they are always welcome home, just as long there is a home for me to come to.....

 

[oesdog]

I hope you don't lose anymore, BUT if you do, let us know what the vet says.

Any chance this was a case of fowl pox... It is a slow killer. It nickel and dimes your flock to death.

We are waiting for the rain to stop so we can light off some fireworks.

I have never heard of fowl pox???????? I will have to look it up??????? OMG if it is that how do I get rid of it? How did they get it?????
They are a closed flock.

Oes ???????? OMG the pox????? Isn't that like a medevil disease! lol

 

[math ace]

I have never heard of fowl pox???????? I will have to look it up??????? OMG if it is that how do I get rid of it? How did they get it?????
They are a closed flock.

Oes ???????? OMG the pox????? Isn't that like a medevil disease! lol

Fowl Pox is spread by mosquitos. So being a closed flock does not matter.
The old timers call it Sore Head and others in the medical field call it avian diphtheria.
Try the following link for more info.

http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/ps044

Usually it effects YOUNGER birds, BUT older ones can get it. The younger ones are at a greater risk because they SPREAD it by being frisky and challenging each other. The older birds already have their pecking order established so the only way it spreads is via the mosquitos. The DRY version is nasty to look at, BUT the birds usually recover from it. The WET version is the version that acts like a cold and gets into their respiratory system. The recovery from this version is a lot less successful. Antibiotics are a MUST for the WET version of fowl pox.

 

[oesdog]

Fowl Pox is spread by mosquitos. So being a closed flock does not matter.
The old timers call it Sore Head and others in the medical field call it avian diphtheria.
Try the following link for more info.

http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/ps044

Usually it effects YOUNGER birds, BUT older ones can get it. The younger ones are at a greater risk because they SPREAD it by being frisky and challenging each other. The older birds already have their pecking order established so the only way it spreads is via the mosquitos. The DRY version is nasty to look at, BUT the birds usually recover from it. The WET version is the version that acts like a cold and gets into their respiratory system. The recovery from this version is a lot less successful. Antibiotics are a MUST for the WET version of fowl pox.

That is an interesting theory and some of what you say does "fit". However as we live in Ireland there were NO mosquitos here in the winter months when this first started?????

Oes - I will look up the link thanks for the info

 

[math ace]

One more thing to think about....

My first and only case of fowl pox was in the winter. It was a really nasty case of fowl pox.
When I took one bird to the vet, after I had lost a couple of other birds, she was questioning the diagnosis of fowl pox too.
I paid for all these tests to make sure it wasn't something else.... VERDICT... FOWL POX in the winter. The mosquitos were coming into the chicken coop at night because I had it heated.

 

[oesdog]

One more thing to think about....

My first and only case of fowl pox was in the winter. It was a really nasty case of fowl pox.
When I took one bird to the vet, after I had lost a couple of other birds, she was questioning the diagnosis of fowl pox too.
I paid for all these tests to make sure it wasn't something else.... VERDICT... FOWL POX in the winter. The mosquitos were coming into the chicken coop at night because I had it heated.

Couple of things different for us. - I asked DH he says we don;t have Mosquitos at all here just Midgies which don't come out in Winter and I don;t have heating to attract them anyway???
Anyhow the girls seem a bit better with the Antibiotics but maybe I will never get to the bottom of what was killing them. The other thing is that they were getting water from a butt - that filled from the roof guttering. So could in theory have gotten coccidoses from that????? From wild birds on the roof????

Oes