Coronavirus, Covid 19 Discussion and How It Has Affected Your Daily Life Chat Thread

[rosemarythyme]

When my hair was that long I just twisted it until it formed it's own bun and put a clip in it. I wish I could have my hair that long again

Oh I clip it up when it's wet, otherwise it's dripping everywhere. That's not an issue. But when I wear it down and it starts catching on belts, seat belts, bras, etc... when it's long enough to swim in the sink when I'm washing dishes, it has to go. Even if I screw up when self-trimming I figure it'll grow back in a half year anyhow.

 

[seminolewind]

Oh I clip it up when it's wet, otherwise it's dripping everywhere. That's not an issue. But when I wear it down and it starts catching on belts, seat belts, bras, etc... when it's long enough to swim in the sink when I'm washing dishes, it has to go. Even if I screw up when self-trimming I figure it'll grow back in a half year anyhow.

Such problems! LOL. Enjoy it!

 

[Shadrach]

Well another way of looking at it is we need the healthcare industry the most. I think delaying the herd immunity just makes it so everyone doesn't get sick at the same time because we don't have enough equipment to keep everyone alive unless the ones that get sick -get sick at a slower rate that saves lives. It's hard to admit that things need to be the way it is. It's hard not to see this as a convenience to healthcare, but we don't have the facilities or people to take care of a lot of people at once. It's got to be people needing treatment are spread out in time so that everyone can be treated appropriately.

Sometimes the way to save the most people is to have a lockdown therefore not preventing economic slaughter but saving lives. I have stock for retirement. I could cry.

I think the idea that we can rely on herd immunity is dangerous. Covid-19 is a mutation of an existing virus. When this mutation can't kill us any more it will mutate and try again. We can't gain immunity as fast as a virus can mutate.
I like to look at this virus as a predator rather than a bug.
I also believe that the idea that we must save every life if possible is likely to be a very costly ideological stance. It may cost more lives indirectly than the virus will account for.
I did mention this in an earlier post.
I find it interesting that on a chicken forum when diseases effect the chicken species it is apparent to most that in order to preserve the species the obvious solution is to cull the infected and put into place social distancing.
As far as the virus is concerned we are just another species. It is always helpful to have knowledge of how ones enemy sees the world.
I have posted a few links in this thread and I get the impression that they get a like click but do not get read, or people believe these things only happen to other people and it will be different for them.
In one link for example an associated link concerning Italy, describes the dead being loaded into army trucks and being taken to incinerators. No funerals, no seeing the dead one last time. For a religious country like Italy this is soul destroying. No amount of lets all be positive memes is going to fix that nor is the cheer leading patriotic style posting.
I have mentioned before, this is a global problem and the virus doesn't care which flag you wave or which god you believe in.
In the link below is an article, an opinion, but it does point out for example that in the UK for those who are vulnerable due to other health problems that they are looking at 12 weeks worth of isolation; that's three months of incarceration!
The article also points out, as have many scientists that the death figures only show that those who died were infected by Covid-19. The figures do not show that Covid-19 was the cause of death. This is a very important point. Some, maybe many of these people would have died anyway from other health problems.
There are also some interesting projections of different scenarios ranging from half a million dead to twenty thousand dead depending on how successful the measures taken are.
Our politicians who hopefully will have listened to the scientists must now be aware that their health systems (Italy has one of the best health care systems in the world) are likely to collapse under the strain. Those working in health care are at very high risk and there is a limited supply. There must come a point when there are not enough health care workers to tend to the infected.........
Meanwhile, our beliefe in the value of the individual human life above all others life forms pushes our species down a track of life saving at any expense.
I hope those who can do math have got their sums right.
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-51979654

 

[Perris]

In the link below is an article, an opinion

you forgot the link - we all do now and then but I'd like to read the piece you intended

 

[Shadrach]

you forgot the link - we all do now and then but I'd like to read the piece you intended

Thanks Perris. Sorted now.

 

[Rainwing]

I haven't had chickens in 2 years since they passed away, but since my university classes got moved online for the rest of the semester, I'm raising chickens again after Covid-19. It's definitely impacted a lot here, and now we're on lockdown. We can't go out so it's better to stay bored at home with chickens than nothing at all. My current goal is to avoid catching it, and if I have it, avoid spreading it.

 

[Perris]

This from the official uk gov guidance on 'shielding and protecting the extremely vulnerable from covid-19' :

"Shielding is for your personal protection, it is your choice to decide whether to follow the measures we advise. Individuals who have been given a prognosis of less than 6 months to live, and some others in special circumstances, could decide not to undertake shielding. This will be a deeply personal decision. We advise calling your GP or specialist to discuss this.

The NHS in England is directly contacting people with these conditions to provide further advice."

I assume this is for those who regard some modern health practices and laws as cruel and inhuman, especially those fighting in the courts for the right to die. Not everyone goes unwillingly.

 

[BDutch]

WHY DO WE FIGHT AGAINST CORONA WITHOUT DISCUSSING THE CAUSE? "

Governments worldwide are taking drastic measures to combat the spread of the coronavirus. Meanwhile, there is a clear way to tackle the source of many of these types of infectious diseases.

Stop eating animals kept in poor conditions.

In China, after the outbreak of the coronavirus, it is forbidden to trade and eat wild animal species any longer. The corona outbreak was believed to be the source of the Wuhan market, a fish market where other wildlife - dead and alive - were also sold and slaughtered for consumption. The outbreak was reminiscent of the 2003 SARS epidemic, which also originated in a market where wildlife was slaughtered and trafficked. Many of the wild animal species are bred in China for consumption, much like chickens, pigs and cows. Some twenty thousand wild animal farms have already been closed.

Other outbreak problems and diseases with keeping and feeding animals in crowded or wrong conditions occured. Not only with its origin in China:

BSE /Jacob Creutzfelt
In other words: mad cow disease. Also dangerous for humans and goats. This disease is mainly spread by animal feed containing flour made from infected animals. BSE affects the central nervous system, causing startle reactions, sensitivity to light and eventually death.

Bovine TBC
A bacterial disease, communicable through milk or the air. People can also get this form of TB. The Netherlands appears to be free of disease in 1999, but infected calves were found again in 2012. Symptoms include breathing problems and weight loss. Sometimes the animals die. The spread of bovine TBC can be limited by stopping international transport.

Bird flu
This flu virus gives animals and people tearing eyes and stuffed throats. In the aggressive variant, the animals die quickly. As soon as an infected chicken, duck or turkey has been detected, the entire house is cleared. The winter of 2016 killed more than 700,000 animals, half a million of which were preventative.

Q fever
Among other things, this bacterial disease causes spontaneous abortions in goats and sheep. Other animals are also sometimes infected. People get flu-like symptoms or die. Inhaling the bacteria is enough to get it. Thanks to mandatory vaccinations and strict controls, the number of infections is falling.

Sources:
The text above is from an 2 articles and translated from Dutch opinion sites One world and Wakker dier. I altered it just a little to make more sense. You can read the complete articles with google translate.
https://www.oneworld.nl/lezen/opinie/waarom-vechten-we-tegen-corona-zonder-de-oorzaak-te-bespreken/https://www.wakkerdier.nl/vee-industrie/misstanden/dierziekten/

 

[FortCluck]

I grow my hair long so I can donate it to be used for making a wig for a child with cancer.

That's what I'm doing too

 

[21hens-incharge]

Another mask making video in case anyone would like to see it.

Stay safe.