Coronavirus, Covid 19 Discussion and How It Has Affected Your Daily Life Chat Thread

[MROO]

... some local drivers just pick their farms never see the farmer, deliver their milk and go home. Farmers are pretty worried also.

My sister is a dairy farmer. Biosecurity is always the highest priority for her family, but it's SERIOUSLY tight on the farm, right now!

 

[sourland]

Okay, finally caught up. Good morning and good human husbandry to all. First day of total state shutdown.

In Houston...anyone who forwards false news or posts made up Corona stuff online is now getting prosecuted...whatever that means.

Total statewide shutdown starts today here in NJ. Defiance , according to the governor, is disorderly conduct...whatever that means. Our little country road is a shortcut used by many on their way from Pa. or N. Jersey on their way south - not one car so far today. It's eerie.

 

[tazcat70]

OK I need to vent. Blame it on cabin fever. So I’m on like day 11 of stay at home. I’ve spoken to the kind folks at the feed store and they will gladly take my order and load it into my car- no touching. I ordered some wine from a kind of local liquor store. I order online, and will load it into my car, no touching. They had to stop delivery because of demand. That’s ok. But I still can’t get yogurt or trash bags without going into the store. All delivery and curbside services at grocery stores AND Walmart have been cancelled. Seriously! The really great news is apparently a distillery has stopped making the really good bourbon and other beneficial spirits and are now making hand sanitizer. Yay! It’s good to know that customer service is still alive and well somewhere.

you might try ordering your Walmart pick up at midnight. They seem to release the next day at midnight. I found out last night.

 

[FortCluck]

you might try ordering your Walmart pick up at midnight. They seem to release the next day at midnight. I found out last night.

Thanks for that tip. I'm going to order at midnight when I need to do my shopping.

 

[FortCluck]

Reading about this virus made me like this such a complex little virus. Very deadly to the cells in your body. Very interesting read.

https://www.livescience.com/amp/coronavirus-not-human-made-in-lab.html

 

[SnapdragonQ]

I think the idea that we can rely on herd immunity is dangerous. Covid-19 is a mutation of an existing virus. When this mutation can't kill us any more it will mutate and try again. We can't gain immunity as fast as a virus can mutate.
I like to look at this virus as a predator rather than a bug.
I also believe that the idea that we must save every life if possible is likely to be a very costly ideological stance. It may cost more lives indirectly than the virus will account for.
I did mention this in an earlier post.
I find it interesting that on a chicken forum when diseases effect the chicken species it is apparent to most that in order to preserve the species the obvious solution is to cull the infected and put into place social distancing.
As far as the virus is concerned we are just another species. It is always helpful to have knowledge of how ones enemy sees the world.
I have posted a few links in this thread and I get the impression that they get a like click but do not get read, or people believe these things only happen to other people and it will be different for them.
In one link for example an associated link concerning Italy, describes the dead being loaded into army trucks and being taken to incinerators. No funerals, no seeing the dead one last time. For a religious country like Italy this is soul destroying. No amount of lets all be positive memes is going to fix that nor is the cheer leading patriotic style posting.
I have mentioned before, this is a global problem and the virus doesn't care which flag you wave or which god you believe in.
In the link below is an article, an opinion, but it does point out for example that in the UK for those who are vulnerable due to other health problems that they are looking at 12 weeks worth of isolation; that's three months of incarceration!
The article also points out, as have many scientists that the death figures only show that those who died were infected by Covid-19. The figures do not show that Covid-19 was the cause of death. This is a very important point. Some, maybe many of these people would have died anyway from other health problems.
There are also some interesting projections of different scenarios ranging from half a million dead to twenty thousand dead depending on how successful the measures taken are.
Our politicians who hopefully will have listened to the scientists must now be aware that their health systems (Italy has one of the best health care systems in the world) are likely to collapse under the strain. Those working in health care are at very high risk and there is a limited supply. There must come a point when there are not enough health care workers to tend to the infected.........
Meanwhile, our beliefe in the value of the individual human life above all others life forms pushes our species down a track of life saving at any expense.
I hope those who can do math have got their sums right.
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-51979654

Very interesting view. I may not agree with (or want to acknowledge) some of the things you posted but thank you for taking the time to put it out there.

 

[getaclue]

you might try ordering your Walmart pick up at midnight. They seem to release the next day at midnight. I found out last night.

I will try that here. The first step, is to pick an available time slot. There were no available slots, for 2 days, so it would not let me proceed.

 

[CapricornFarm]

I'm thinking if they set up an iron then could iron them between patients and have instant sterilization. I dunno. They may not have the time but it makes sense to me.

They have autoclaves to sterilize equipment.

 

[dougieee]

I am seriously tempted to load up the bator right now, im getting around 100 eggs a week and they are selling instantly with people on order, ive even had enquiries to buy my POLs (Not bad for a flock 0f 20 backyard pets).
Part of me wants to prepare and part of me hopes this will just all blow over relatively quickly, chicken is impossible to get hold of because of panic buyers so meat birds are suddenly a big option as well.

 

[CapricornFarm]

Well another way of looking at it is we need the healthcare industry the most. I think delaying the herd immunity just makes it so everyone doesn't get sick at the same time because we don't have enough equipment to keep everyone alive unless the ones that get sick -get sick at a slower rate that saves lives. It's hard to admit that things need to be the way it is. It's hard not to see this as a convenience to healthcare, but we don't have the facilities or people to take care of a lot of people at once. It's got to be people needing treatment are spread out in time so that everyone can be treated appropriately.

Sometimes the way to save the most people is to have a lockdown therefore not preventing economic slaughter but saving lives. I have stock for retirement. I could cry.

Yeah, over half our retirement fund is gone from the stock market crash. My husband finally stopped telling me how many thousand we are are losing daily. He knows I have anxiety and depression. Everyone says, oh well, it will come back. Maybe, but who knows when?