Cream Legbar Hybrid Thread

PupsNHens

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I bred Black Copper Marans for 5-6 years the really black chicks were always a clear sign that we had a recessive color pattern [e+, eb, or eWh]. Your Orpington is build on the extended black [E] primary color pattern and cross with a legbar will have the Extended Black [E] with a recessive Wild type [e+] and should have a really black chick down color. Your cross was a success. Everything came out as it should have. Congratulations. The Oliver Eggs are great additions to the flock.
Thanks. I have a question about single vs double barring. I understand that the cockerel is single barred. His barring appears to be confined to his tail, saddle, and hackle feathers. When he was a chick, he didn't develop obvious barring until around 8 weeks. Another cockerel in the same hatch, a blue Barred Rock (blue Orp x Barred Rock hen) feathered out the same way. I thought I had another blue Orp until the barring appeared at around 8 weeks (apparently, my Orp hen was sitting on a BR egg, she didn't actually lay it like I thought <g>). Until them, I thought barred chicks would develop barred feathers when they first started to feather out. Is the fact that they carry only a single barred gene the reason the barring didn't appear until later?
 

GaryDean26

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Chick down in not barred in barred birds. The only indication on the barring in the chick down is a white spot on the top of the head. The barking will be more parent in the double barred cockerels than the it will be in the single barred cockerels or pullets (who are never double barred since the sex-linked gene only allows cockerels to be double barred). The double barred birds get barring on their wing feathers and tail feathers as soon as they come in. The single barred birds may get a dark grey barred line but not a white barred line to where the barring is no apparent like it is in the double barred birds.
 

PupsNHens

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Thanks. I knew the chick down wouldn't be barred, but I thought they would feather in as barred as soon as the feathers came in. It's good to know that the barring comes later in single-barred male chicks. Just for a visual, these are photos of him when he was about 6 weeks old (no obvious barring), then at around 10 weeks (barring starting to appear).
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Hello, we had a reddish EE rooster in with a pure CCL hen and got one chipmunk chick with no head spot and one gold chick; I thought that they were both pullets. They are now 4.5 weeks old and I see that the chipmunk chick is getting in feathers that appear barred, but I’m not used to seeing it in red... Is this barring? If so, is it definitely a cockerel? First two pics are of chipmunk baby, second two are of gold baby. Last pic is of red EE father. Thanks!
 

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SeaHen

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I bought my very first CL eggs through Ebay yesterday and picked them up from the local seller today. I paid for 6 but she only had 3 fresh purebred ones ready so subbed 3 + 3 extra CL x Welsummer eggs. Has anyone here ever hatched chicks from that cross? I'm not a huge fan of olive eggs, which these are, but my understanding is that by breeding the hens from this hatch back to a pure CL roo the result should be mint-colored eggs. Hopefully I'll get at least one of each sex from the purebred ones!
 
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