Crested Cream Legbar Genotype vs. Phenotype

[nicalandia]

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Just Go Ahead and Do it....

 

[nicalandia]

When I say, the CCL has not have a form of Melanizer I say that because as you many know, the SOP calls for Grey barring on, Creast, Shoulders, Back and Saddle. this means that the Barring Gene has to have some form of Stippling to Turn into grey barring,... Example.. here is a Clean Silver Duckwing Male, notice not Stippling on this bird..
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now Take a look at the Heavy Stippling this Silver Duckwing Phoenix Shows... that the type of melanizer I am talking about....

 

[dretd]

When I say, the CCL has not have a form of Melanizer I say that because as you many know, the SOP calls for Grey barring on, Creast, Shoulders, Back and Saddle. this means that the Barring Gene has to have some form of Stippling to Turn into grey barring,...

I hope you meant to say 'has to have some sort of melanizer'. I think this is what had been bothering me so much when looking at the Legbars. I couldn't figure out why the saddles and wing bays etc were supposed to be grey and cream barred when the only photos I could see of the cream based Leghorns without barring had cream in those areas. Made no sense to add barring to a cream base and get grey barring.

It would also explain why some breeders are having black tipping appearing in the breasts of some of the pullets. I have a Faverolles hen that had significant amounts of black tipping in her feathers that mostly disappeared at her first main molt. My theory was that the roosters in the line showed better with the melanzers present so the girls looked a little, well, hatchery quality for lack of a better term.

 

[nicalandia]

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yes I meant to say some sort of melanizer.... I am not sure how this melanizer works on females, I would assume that pullets with extra melanizer would make good males but manybe not so good females?... so you may want to breed thos pullets to not so melanized males to produce better females and good males

 

[HaplessRunner]

Subscribing - Hope to learn from knowledgeable folks.

 

[nicalandia]

If Any of you have questions just go ahead of post please... kind of hard to learn without asking

 

[ChicKat]

Posting this in all the CL threads so that everyone will have a chance to see him.


Cockerel from Jill Rees line in the UK, expected availability from Greenfire Farms is Q2 of 2013.

 

[nicalandia]

I have seen males as good in these forums...

his weight looks on the downside

 

[ChicKat]

I have seen males as good in these forums...

his weight looks on the downside

He's a baby - and remember discussion here is genotype and phenotype.

 

[nicalandia]

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oh I forgot he was still a cockerel... still has room to grow then.. good color to him, nice grey barring over his body