Cubalaya Thread For Sharing Pics and Discussing Our Birds

[Jungleexplorer]

The cockerel is a blue golden, yes. The offspring from the birds pictured will be:, pullets- blue wheatens, wheatens, silver blue wheatens, silver wheatens. Cockerels-Blue breasted red, black breasted red, blue breasted golden, golden wheaten. A one in 8 chance that any given chick will be any given on of those sex/colors.

Okay. Let's say the tables were flipped and the stag was a BBRed and the hen was a Blue Wheaten. What the offspring from that produce? The same?

 

[gallorojo]

That's actually an easier one. That mating will get you 1/2 Blue reds, and 1/2 black breasted reds. Sex of blue parent etc not important when breeding blues. Silver however is sexlinked and if we used a blue silver pullet instead of a " blue-red" pullet, you would get blue wheaten and regular wheaten pullets, and blue golden and golden cockerels.

 

[Jungleexplorer]

Just to clarify. Do you mean that I would get offspring that will be a 50/50 mix of blue red and and black red, or that some of the offspring will be blue red and others will be BBRed?

 

[gallorojo]

Half the offspring will be blue red and half black red. None will be part blue and part black, all either or. Blue is basically a dilution, in one dose it lightens all black feathers to blue. In 2 doses or pure form it lightens all black feathers to an almost white " splash" speckled color white. If you want to play around with colors, google kippen jungle and start trying out various crosses.

 

[tigercreek]

Thanks all . I was surprised at the color on these birds. I have seen very few Cubas live, and the colors are so much brighter than pics show! Also appreciate the explanation of potential offspring. I understand the blue from breeding other birds, but I have never had any silver or gold. Can you give me a genetics 101 class on gold and silver? I know some about sex link from breeding sex linked, blue barred rocks, ( splash X Barred) , but can't seem to get my head around the silver/gold. Is it the same gene?? I would like to breed for gold, silver, BBR with a mix of blue . I really would like to breed a blue silver cockerel. Can I do that in the next generation by breeding a silver pullet back to the blue gold father? One more, Splash = pyle?? thanks......stan

 

[gallorojo]

Yes, you can make a Pyle type bird out of a blue splash BB Red. You can also make pyles from regular white as well. Silver gene is sex linked in same fashion as barring gene, male has 2, female only has one. Females can only be silver or red, not golden. Males can have either 2 silver, 2 red, or one silver and red which equals golden.

 

[tigercreek]

Yes, you can make a Pyle type bird out of a blue splash BB Red. You can also make pyles from regular white as well. Silver gene is sex linked in same fashion as barring gene, male has 2, female only has one. Females can only be silver or red, not golden. Males can have either 2 silver, 2 red, or one silver and red which equals golden.

AHHH, thanks......

 

[Jungleexplorer]

Half the offspring will be blue red and half black red. None will be part blue and part black, all either or. Blue is basically a dilution, in one dose it lightens all black feathers to blue. In 2 doses or pure form it lightens all black feathers to an almost white " splash" speckled color white. If you want to play around with colors, google kippen jungle and start trying out various crosses.

Thank you for the explanation. It helps a lot. I don't have any other colors to breed right now (I'm not breeding those Ideal cockerels). But I am glad that I will be able to get as blue red cockerel out of the match up.

 

[tigercreek]

Jungle,
That silver Welp pullet looks like she might be a nice one. Good looking head and beak so far. Nice posture and breast too if it holds. She ( I think ) will get you a gold cockerel when bred to your BBR this fall.....stan

 

[Jungleexplorer]

I will just have to wait and see. I am not sure if she is a silver or not. My dslr camera was on the wrong setting when I took that picture and she turned out with a blue hue to her that is not true to life. My back was out last week really bad and I just did not feel like taking the pictures over again. I will try to get some better pictures, but they are hard to shoot because they never stop running around when I am in the pen with them. The little buggers can fly like birds too. Crazy!