Denagard confusion please

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  1. dgh

    dgh Chillin' With My Peeps

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    i'm too old for this. how many teaspoons per gallon for TREATMENT.
    Mycoplasma gallisepticum
    per Connecticut Veterinary Medical Diagnostic Laboratory
     
  2. casportpony

    casportpony Team Tube Feeding Captain & Poop Inspector General Premium Member Project Manager

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    No less than 1.6 teaspoons (8 ml) per gallon for treatment. How many birds are you treating and how much water do they drink in a day?

    -Kathy

    Edited to add this:
    Denagard[​IMG] 12.5% Solution (Tiamulin)

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    Premix
    45% WSG
    12.5% Solution
    Product Type
    Oral antibiotic intended for preventive and therapeutic use in pigs and poultry.
    Description and Composition
    DENAGARD 12.5% Solution is an aqueous solution containing 125 mg tiamulin hydrogen fumarate per ml of product. It is used for medication in drinking water.
    Properties
    Tiamulin is a bacteriostatic agent, belonging to the group of pleuromutilins and acts at the ribosomal level to inhibit bacterial protein synthesis. It has a wide spectrum of activity but is particularly active against Brachyspira, Lawsonia and Mycoplasma species. Tiamulin belongs to a category of antibiotics which is not used in human medicine.
    Indications
    Treatment and prevention of Mycoplasma infections (enzootic pneumonia, chronic respiratory disease), pleuropneumonia and porcine respiratory disease complex.
    Denagard is particularly indicated for the treatment of swine dysentery (B.hyodysenteriae)
    Dosage and Administration
    Pigs:

    • Treatment of swine dysentery: 8.8 mg tiamulin hydrogen fumarate / kg bodyweight (equivalent to 10 ml DENAGARD 12.5% Solution per 142 kg bodyweight; inclusion level 0.006% tiamulin) for 3-5 consecutive days
    • Treatment of PRDC (porcine respiratory disease complex): 15 – 20 mg tiamulin hydrogen fumarate / kg bodyweight (inclusion level 0.012% - 0.018% tiamulin) for 5 – 10 consecutive days
    • Treatment of pleuropneumonia: 20 mg tiamulin hydrogen fumarate / kg bodyweight (inclusion level 0.018% tiamulin) for 5 consecutive days
    Indications

    Tiamulin (concentration in water in %)

    Product
    (in ml)

    Water
    (in liters)

    Treatment
    (in days)
    Treatment swine dysentery

    0.006

    1

    2.1

    5
    Treatment PRDC

    0.012 / 0.018

    1

    1.0 / 0.7

    5 - 10
    Treatment pleuropneumonia

    0.018

    1

    0.7

    5
    Chickens:
    • Prevention of chronic respiratory disease (CRD) and air sacculitis: 12.5 mg tiamulin hydrogen fumarate / kg bodyweight
    • Treatment of chronic respiratory disease (CRD) and air sacculitis: 25 mg tiamulin hydrogen fumarate / kg bodyweight
    Turkeys:
    • Prevention of infectious sinusitis and air sacculitis: 12.5 mg tiamulin hydrogen fumarate / kg bodyweight
    • Treatment of infectious sinusitis and air sacculitis: 25 mg tiamulin hydrogen fumarate / kg bodyweight

    Indications

    Tiamulin (concentration in water in %)

    Product
    (in ml)

    Water
    (in liters)

    Treatment
    (in days)
    Prevention CRD / air sacculitis / infectious sinusitis

    0.0125

    1

    1

    3 days (1stweek of life); 1-2 days every 3-4 weeks
    Treatment CRD / air sacculitis / infectious sinusitis

    0.025

    2

    1

    3 – 5

    Withdrawal Periods
    Withdrawal periods according to national registrations.
    Special Precautions and Warnings
    Do not administer ionophore anticoccidials (salinomycin, monensin, narasin) to pigs and poultry receiving therapeutic doses of DENAGARD. Pigs and poultry should not receive products containing ionophores during or for at least seven days before or after treatment with DENAGARD.
    Formulations and Packages
    DENAGARD 12.5% Solution
    • 1 litre dispensing packs
     
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  3. dgh

    dgh Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Im sorry for being so stupid. Ive been on the phone all day and I cant think anymore. I have about 65 chickens and I believe they are drinking roughly 4 gallons each day. I put 1 tablespoon/ gallon mixed with juice, water and sugar. I think they are going to need some probiotics.
     
  4. casportpony

    casportpony Team Tube Feeding Captain & Poop Inspector General Premium Member Project Manager

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    About how much do these 65 chickens weigh? approximate is okay.

    -Kathy
     
  5. dgh

    dgh Chillin' With My Peeps

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    between the brahmas and the americaunas and the buff orpingtons I would say 8 lbs. each
     
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    dgh Chillin' With My Peeps

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    btw, this started with the birds from one breeder. I know they could have had it, picked it up from wild birds, but I am suspicious.
     
  7. casportpony

    casportpony Team Tube Feeding Captain & Poop Inspector General Premium Member Project Manager

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    65 x 8 = 520 pounds

    520 / 2.2 x 25 /125 = 47 ml needed per day (9.4 teaspoons per day)

    47 / 4 gallons = 11.75 ml per gallon, or 2.35 teaspoons per gallon.

    Does that help at all? Bigger hens need more.

    -Kathy
     
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    casportpony Team Tube Feeding Captain & Poop Inspector General Premium Member Project Manager

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    If they are drinking it with one tablespoon, just keep doing that. [​IMG]

    -Kathy
     
  9. dgh

    dgh Chillin' With My Peeps

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    ok/ I just gave them 3t/gal with a little more water. Im going to leave it for tonight and adjust in the morning. this Treatment is for 3-5 day is my understanding. here is the hen who started all of this.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJl5aP2mXJo&sns=em
    she has been autopsied. and only one other, a rooster, coughed like this a few times. I have a few sneezes but not much and I am not sure if it is out of th ordinary sneezing. BUT I think I can assume that they all have it.
     
  10. casportpony

    casportpony Team Tube Feeding Captain & Poop Inspector General Premium Member Project Manager

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    Sorry for you loss. [​IMG]

    Did you post about this hen on a different forum?

    -Kathy
     

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