Denagard Dosage

[Sydney Acres]

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It's pretty common for the dosage in something tiny to be higher than the dosage on something large, on a mg/kg basis, not on a total dose basis.

 

[ChicKat]

Here is something oblique that I found regarding Denagard:

Started with research into lowered egg production -- I have one hen only 2 years old that hasn't come back yet from her molt and she should be laying again by now...

http://www.worldpoultry.net/Broilers/Health/2010/8/Egg-production-drops-from-Brachyspira-WP007816W/

Interesting that the last photo shows a foamy poop - in the bottom of the disease article, all the first ones are charts -- you need to go through them by clicking the dots.......

So I looked up "cure for Brachyspira "

http://www.thepoultrysite.com/articles/1255/spirochaetosis-brachyspira/

Treatment

The condition can be treated using antimicrobial therapy. However, there are now no licensed in-feed antibiotics with a nil egg withdrawal period. Therefore, treatments are limited to drinking water medications; licensed products include Tiamutin and Aureomycin (containing tiamulin and chlortetracycline, respectively), both of which do have a nil egg withdrawal period, during and after treatment. -
On the Denagard information folder
https://www.hitpages.com/doc/4532497777950720/2#pageTop

on the bottom of page 2

Denagard is also compatible with recommended doses of chlortetracycline and combined use​

has been shown to enhance the activity of both medicines against CRD and mixed respiratory infections following a M. gallisepticum challenge3.​

 

[cree57i]

Here is something oblique that I found regarding Denagard:

Started with research into lowered egg production -- I have one hen only 2 years old that hasn't come back yet from her molt and she should be laying again by now...

http://www.worldpoultry.net/Broilers/Health/2010/8/Egg-production-drops-from-Brachyspira-WP007816W/

Interesting that the last photo shows a foamy poop - in the bottom of the disease article, all the first ones are charts -- you need to go through them by clicking the dots.......

So I looked up "cure for Brachyspira "

http://www.thepoultrysite.com/articles/1255/spirochaetosis-brachyspira/

Treatment

The condition can be treated using antimicrobial therapy. However, there are now no licensed in-feed antibiotics with a nil egg withdrawal period. Therefore, treatments are limited to drinking water medications; licensed products include Tiamutin and Aureomycin (containing tiamulin and chlortetracycline, respectively), both of which do have a nil egg withdrawal period, during and after treatment. -
On the Denagard information folder
https://www.hitpages.com/doc/4532497777950720/2#pageTop

on the bottom of page 2

Denagard is also compatible with recommended doses of chlortetracycline and combined use​

has been shown to enhance the activity of both medicines against CRD and mixed respiratory infections following a M. gallisepticum challenge3.​

I wonder if this is what is wrong with one of my isabelles that hasn't laid an egg since Jan. 8, when she was NPIP tested. I think even an isabelle leghorn would forget they were PO'd in 4 months! This is probably much more likely and it's about the only thing I haven't tried. Thanks for the info!

 

[ChicKat]

I wonder if this is what is wrong with one of my isabelles that hasn't laid an egg since Jan. 8, when she was NPIP tested. I think even an isabelle leghorn would forget they were PO'd in 4 months! This is probably much more likely and it's about the only thing I haven't tried. Thanks for the info!

It would be interesting if it is a 'cure' for another ailment - other than respiratory - -in this case as I understand it -- in the gut. The first article said that is it really common in poultry (that they tested) --- and I bet that there are varied degrees of cause/effect. The second article seems to think it is harder to actually diagnose and -- that there is a 'innocent' variety of Brachyspirea (sounds like a plant in the garden) -- and that cultures would be needed. However since Denegard is not harmful -- it would be interesting to see if this got her back on track......

 

[cree57i]

It would be interesting if it is a 'cure' for another ailment - other than respiratory - -in this case as I understand it -- in the gut. The first article said that is it really common in poultry (that they tested) --- and I bet that there are varied degrees of cause/effect. The second article seems to think it is harder to actually diagnose and -- that there is a 'innocent' variety of Brachyspirea (sounds like a plant in the garden) -- and that cultures would be needed. However since Denegard is not harmful -- it would be interesting to see if this got her back on track......

Brachyspirea sounds like either a plant or a dinosaur. I am going to mix up the medicine right now. How many days do you think? She is headed for the flea market if she isn't going to lay so I really has nothing to lose!

 

[ChicKat]

Brachyspirea sounds like either a plant or a dinosaur. I am going to mix up the medicine right now. How many days do you think? She is headed for the flea market if she isn't going to lay so I really has nothing to lose!

My expertise on this is nil --- but I would use the recommended Denagard run -- was that 3-5 days?

 

[cree57i]

My expertise on this is nil --- but I would use the recommended Denagard run -- was that 3-5 days?

I think Denegard is 5 days. The experiment is in progress!

 

[Cynthia12]

I have used Denagard for years. Love it. Can't say enough good about it. I had a horrible outbreak of upper respiratory 3 yrs. ago. Found a thread here on it. Tried it. Worked. We ate the eggs..no problem. Now..I use it every spring, and every fall as a preventive. No problems since. I really believe this stuff works..we have chickens all around us in this neighborhood. Some will get sick. Mine don't. I will keep using it..as long as I have chickens. I just use a Tbs. in a gallon of water in the spring and the fall..for just 2 days..sometime 3 if I hear of chickens around us. I then follow up with plain yogurt..I just put down a lot of it..where they can find it..they love it! Probiotic..great for them after the use of Denagard.

 

[sonshine15]

The quick search I did found a 12.5% solution, which is 125mg/ml - 1 teaspoon = 4.92892ml

-Kathy

Ok, so can someone how is good at math break down the treatment in teaspoons or tablespoons per gallon for treatment and then prevention?
Tried everything and Denagard will be arriving tomorrow.
Only thing now working on lame birds is Colliodal Silver. In my frustration I gave it to them and am still giving it to them. They are getting better but others have swollen eyes, etc.

Thank you
Math flunkee

 

[sonshine15]

So is one tablespoon per gallon the treatment or prevention dose?