Docking Tails (dogs- want your oppinon).

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Well, it may be different in the dog world, I do not know.

But.

I can tell you that in the horse world, LOTS of people put 'right of first refusal' type clauses in the sales contract. It is pretty common.

Yet hardly ANY buyers actually comply with that clause.

The main reason is probably embarrassment and wanting to avoid an awkward or potentially humiliating situation. But whatever the reasons, in reality LOTS AND LOTS of horses (I would guess the vast majority) that are sold with buyback/reclaim type clauses end up getting passed on to other owners or sent to auction or given away to 'rescues' etcetera etcetera without the original owner ever hearing Word One about it.

There is really not much you can do to enforce it, either. First, you would have to *discover* that the horse or dog was given away or sold; and then you would have to spend a bunch of money and time and stomach acid taking the person to small claims court without any particularly likelihood of a good outcome, besides which what you *really* wanted was the dog back and you aren't GOING to get THAT because the person no longer even has the dog.

So, I'm just saying. Realistically, unless things work radically different in the dog world, do not place any meaningful faith in such contract clauses.

BTW, in some areas there *is* a surplus of good, adoptable dogs in shelters -- just not in all areas. (Urban areas, in particular, tend to have mostly 'difficult' dogs; rural areas are more apt to be euthanizing perfectly good adoptable family type animals for lack of a home).

Pat

^^ that may be so but the empty shelters shouldnt be importing dogs from out of coutnry then to fill their shelters and should be putting their efforts in their own country in these surplus areas to help out. Until they do that i don't get their reason other than an odd kind of profit being made off of bringing in dogs that people want (the mexico dogs are flying off the "shelves").<---from what i'vebeen told from many sources.

As for people sneaking and seling or giving away dogs sure that's possible...however im nto the type that sells an animal and then never keeps in contact. I know where both of my past horses are still to this day (it's been 5 years), I know where my rabbits i've sold are (that's been a year so far...and I will continue to know wehre they are). That's where the trust aspect i mentioned comes in, i trust them they trust me... i offer cheap or free services, offer to let them call me with any questions/concerns, help with training etc... that all makes knowing where my animals are a lot easier on me, and makes the new owners feel comfortable like they can "talk" to me if theres problems.

edited to add---I also know that all of the rats I sold to homes have all passed on now (it's been 3-4 years now). The only case where an animal i gave away ended up having a horrid ending was two cats I rehomed...I let them go to a farm because they were used to being outside, went and visited them twice,they wre happy and healthy. The guy a few months back had a rabies outbreak witha few of the cats, the health people stepped in and trapped all the cats, including my two, and put them down to test their brains.... that had me crying for a while to say the least....they were not rabid BTW. before this I was very adimate about animals getting their vaccinations...and keeping them UTD, and this very incident is WHY I even more feel this way.
 
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that's great it works for you and i agree if that's what's best in your situation so be it!
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Not questioning anyones right to dock.
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I just for my own personal reasons wont.
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I can definitely understand where people are coming from who don't dock tails. I just prefer to have this particular breed docked. There are breeds I would not dock even though most people do but I won't get into all that here.
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I completely get where you're coming from.
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If this first litter I do with keeping tails, I end up getting reports of problems in, OR i see the problems in the pup I keep for myself...you can bet you I'll change my own tune about docking in this particular breed.
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I just HAVE to for my own curiosity and hopes...give it a go.
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I hope for positive results.
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If i had working dogs i know i wouldnt want sprayed with poo, however if i was given a good working dog with a tail it'd be fine, i'd just be pretty grossed out wheni got splashed that's for sure.
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JayBird+16 :

I wanted to see my new avatar. They're my dobbies. They don't have tails.

they're adorable
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Is that a rust & tan in the background?
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I had a black and tan
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My grandparents adopt Rott mixes for farm dogs . . . they got one with an undocked tail, and they will never make that mistake again. That tail is massive, and has actually seriously injured my grandmother because of his exuberant tail wagging. He's a great dog and intelligent as all get out, and knows never to jump on people or crowd them . . . but he can't control his tail, and it is dangerous.
Just an example of how a docked tail can be preferable. I would never get an undocked rottie, and it has nothing to do with aesthetics.
 
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Labs are the samme way!
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It hurts bad! I call it the "beat down" and i dont say that in a cute or loving way lol! Not ALL labs, I should say, highly untrained hyper labs are that way.
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I think its Unjustafiable to remove an animals body part for the sole reason that we think it looks better...but if theres an actual reason behind it..I soppose that, in ways, is different. either way i would never do it.
 
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