Dog thread!🐾

[ShrekDawg]

It comes down to health testing, proving your dog has a reliable temperament, breeding for a purpose, proving the dog in some sport, competition or field of work, and breeding for structural and psychological integrity

That makes sense although some would argue companionship is a purpose too especially since that’s what most dogs are going to end up being.

 

[SpotTheCat]

Actually, there’s several doing health testing now (often more than purebreds do) and they even have a breed club and breed standard they’re aiming for now. Same with Australian Labradoodles. The Australian Labradoodles have actually been doing multigenerational doodle to doodle crosses for a while now and breeding fairly true. So they’re almost a breed. They just want nothing to do with the AKC or else they would probably be one by now. But they have a breed club and a breed standard and health testing requirements. And let’s not forget many purebred breeders are extremely unethical too. It’s not only doodles. There’s good and bad in both. I will say though that goldendoodles and Australian labradoodles are the ONLY doodles I would ever consider getting. All the other weird and random crosses are quite unethical and unpredictable. But those two breed fairly true now and a lot of them health test now.

I will look up that club, so far all the doodle clubs I have seen haven’t been ethical

What is ethical then? Only purebred? What about purpose bred mixes? Genuinely curious cause I know that might’ve sounded sarcastic or sassy or whatever but it wasn’t.

all that stuff except the registration is important but they also need to be actively bettering the dogs,

making sure the structure of the dog is sound as well as temperament, health improvement most generations, puppy socialisation, most dogs in the pedigree doing sports/working

its hard for me to explain but I have noticed a increase of byb doing some things that ethical breeders do but only doing it so they look like the care. I am definitely not saying a ethical doodle breeder is impossible


I am all for purpose bred crosses, but companionship isn’t a purpose to me so I see no reason to breed doodles

The breeding of doodles have gotten so badly out of hand by now that I am not sure there is any good way of breeding them ethically. Most people who want a doodle are impulse buyers or haven’t done enough research in to getting a dog (no hate to these people everyone has to start learning somewhere) seeing the amount of matted doodles groomers has to deal with is really sad

 

[ShrekDawg]

I will look up that club, so far all the doodle clubs I have seen haven’t been ethical


all that stuff except the registration is important but they also need to be actively bettering the dogs,

making sure the structure of the dog is sound as well as temperament, health improvement most generations, puppy socialisation, most dogs in the pedigree doing sports/working

its hard for me to explain but I have noticed a increase of byb doing some things that ethical breeders do but only doing it so they look like the care. I am definitely not saying a ethical doodle breeder is impossible


I am all for purpose bred crosses, but companionship isn’t a purpose to me so I see no reason to breed doodles

The breeding of doodles have gotten so badly out of hand by now that I am not sure there is any good way of breeding them ethically. Most people who want a doodle are impulse buyers or haven’t done enough research in to getting a dog (no hate to these people everyone has to start learning somewhere) seeing the amount of matted doodles groomers has to deal with is really sad

Ahh okay that makes sense. Personally for me, I think doodles are not going anywhere any time soon (they’ve already been around like 20 years) so I would rather more ethical breeders pop up rather than have people buy their dogs from a mill or a BYB. Because the demand is there already and if there’s no ethical breeders then that’s what’s going to happen.

 

[fluffycrow]

That makes sense although some would argue companionship is a purpose too especially since that’s what most dogs are going to end up being.

Companionship isn't a purpose, it's more of a byproduct. Every fog is a companion. From a working dog, to a show dog. So you can't really breed for companionship, it's something that'll happen regardless

 

[fluffycrow]

Also sorry for the error, I meant dog and not fog

 

[ShrekDawg]

Companionship isn't a purpose, it's more of a byproduct. Every fog is a companion. From a working dog, to a show dog. So you can't really breed for companionship, it's something that'll happen regardless

But there’s a LOT of people who don’t care about doing dog sports or conformation shows or any of that and just want a good family companion. There needs to be breeders breeding those.

 

[ShrekDawg]

Also sorry for the error, I meant dog and not fog

I figured lol

 

[SpotTheCat]

But there’s a LOT of people who don’t care about doing dog sports or conformation shows or any of that and just want a good family companion. There needs to be breeders breeding those.

But a show line lab still would make a good pet even a working line one. They don’t have to be bred only for companionship to make a good pet

 

[ShrekDawg]

But a show line lab still would make a good pet even a working line one. They don’t have to be bred only for companionship to make a good pet

Hmm good point I guess

 

[SpotTheCat]

But a show line lab still would make a good pet even a working line one. They don’t have to be bred only for companionship to make a good pet

There is no need to make entire new breed simple for companionship