Emerald Pied Spaldings

[Dany12]

Ooops ! I was thinking that EMERALD Pied Spaldings are 3/4 green and 1/4 blue !..... those birds are 3/4 blue and 1/4 green ....not the same !

 

[spectrumranch]

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Which birds are you refering too?

 

[deerman]

Just dropped the name Emerald.......a old name no longer used lot of spalding have 3/4 or more green blood

the emerald was a green looking bird , heck now people call white spalding emerald. a bird 15/16 green worth alot more than a 3/4 green ...so tell % of green ,and drop the term emerald.....that name was drop many years ago

 

[Dany12]

The father seems to be a spalding 50% (green X IB pied) the female may also be a spalding pied or an IB pied with some drops of peacock green blood ( she has so short legs ) . This mixture will never give 75% of green blood!

I like the spalding for the length of they legs which gives them the grace .... elegance.

Making Spalding with short legs it makes no sense!

Sometimes you can see peacock who looks like female( No nobility ), being a peacock...a male is not only wearing certain colors, it's also especially an attitude.
For example, this peacock is not an imperator but a TERMINATOR !

The length of the legs is essential!

Note!

I think we had to recross the domestic Indian blue with wild Indian blue to increase the length of the legs ... ... Objective: grace and elegance.....style!

Can be a good idea for Legg Farm!

 

[deerman]

yes hard to tell a 5/8 from a 3/4 main reason people stop calling them emerald. many were calling birds like 5/8 emerald to get a higher price for them....plus some even raised spalding all in one pen, then called the ones that looked more green emeralds to get that higher price.

 

[MinxFox]

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Yes I really do like the wild India blue's leg length. I do think it makes them that much more beautiful and striking. I often look at my peacock and peahens and think about how much nicer they would look if they didn't have those short little legs and looked more like the wild ones.

 

[AquaEyes]

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Yes I really do like the wild India blue's leg length. I do think it makes them that much more beautiful and striking. I often look at my peacock and peahens and think about how much nicer they would look if they didn't have those short little legs and looked more like the wild ones.

I wonder, however, if doing so will result in peafowl less suited to cold environments. Perhaps the "chunky" shape of the "domesticated" IB is a result of natural selection favoring that body shape among populations kept in climates different from its native India. This follows the evolutionary observation called Allen's Rule, with many examples of species following this trend. So while the leggier look might be more graceful or aesthetically pleasing for some, it might be something of a liability for birds kept in areas that get cold winters.

Just something to think about.

 

[MinxFox]

I was kinda wondering about that but....I live in Florida!

 

[spectrumranch]

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OK I'll bite, I knew you were looking to stir up stuff with your first statement.

The father seems to be a spalding 50% (green X IB pied)
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YOUR ASSumption that he is 50% is wrong. He is 7/8 th green, I purchased him directly from Lewis Eckard, one of the times I was at his place and picked him out.

the female may also be a spalding pied or an IB pied with some drops of peacock green blood ( she has so short legs )
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The hen is also more than 50%. A couple indications would be the dark breast and green coloration coming down the neck farther than on a India Blue Pied hen.

Here is a photo of the hens father: (on the right)

I'm OLD SCHOOL and the term "emerald" was used to describe birds with a green chest. Maybe some people have been bullied into dropping the term on forums & have switched to using percentages. However I prefer the emerald term as it defines birds that have green coloration. I travel some, infact in the last week I have been in six states and stopped at several farms and seen LOTS of peacocks, was at one today with about 250 peacocks for sale; I also attend several sales and auctions and I must say that the term "emerald" is still used widely in the real world.

I like the spalding for the length of they legs which gives them the grace .... elegance.
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Thanks for your opinion, I think all peafowl are elegant.

Making Spalding with short legs it makes no sense!
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Funny thing, as experienced breeders know, when dealing with a cross, you may not always produce what you would prefer. Problem with using the percentages is one bird may have more green coloration than another that is a higher percentage or siblings may even range in the green coloration.​

 

[deerman]

Randy yes you will see people still calling them emerald those are the people trying to get a higher price....have you not hear of emerald white spalding...that had nothing to do with the color emerald...emerald old term....was any spalding with 3/4 green blood. problem some 5/8 looked like 3/4......which prove calling a bird emerald didn't prove anything , except emerald brought bigger dollars.

so those chick with father 7/8 mated to a 1/2 hens........DON'T = Emerald and in that there lays the problem...people calling birds emerald when they are not 3/4 green

if giving the true % mean more than emerald as a 7/8 , 15/16, and even 31/32 are worth a heck of lot more than 3/4.


myself anytime i see someone selling emerald....alot of time they are not true emeralds...just trying to get bigger bucks for spalding that took more after the green in looks.

sorry i don't know the % of that pied hen.......but she does look any more green than one of my 1/4 spalding hen(which had alot of green on her back), plus i saw one Spalding pic of Steve's hen that was 5/8 that looked like 3/4 green.

So call like it is.... a bird 1/2 ,3/4 ,7/8.........tell someone a bird is emerald and the bird isn't 3/4 green....just misleading a person to get more money, just not right.

Throw a bunch of spalding in a large pen, then telling people the one look more green are emerald........spalding % can't be told by looking at a bird, only single pens with good records work.