Famous Hatchery 'Pure Bred' Appearances

[jolenesdad]

That welsummer hen from hatchery stock has a COMPLETELY different body type.

 

[Redhead Rae]

There really is, they are fantastic flock builders

I love their lacing. It is so goregous! I need to start winnowing down my chicks though. I hatched 40 some this year and need to get down to next year's breeders.

 

[Kessel23]

I got some silver leghorns from a hatchery that claims they are very high show quality, they are still young cockerels but I will still send some pics to see what you guys think. I have a feeling that I would lose if I ever brought them to a show. Also, I ordered 5 hens and got 4 roosters and a hen, from a hatchery that claims to have 90% accuracy with sexing. brb

 

[Tortoise]

It's the same in dogs and cats too. Most dogs you see as pets look nothing like what the breed standard calls for or what you will see being owned and showed. It's what most call backyard breeders. They just want the money and don't care about the standard.

 

[BlackHackle]

@BlackHackle
Would it be possible to post the images side by side for each class?

It would be, but would take 3 times longer to do

 

[KikiLeigh02]

How about some Barnevelders?

 

[BlackHackle]

That welsummer hen from hatchery stock has a COMPLETELY different body type.

Yea, those hatcheries only care about money that's all

I got some silver leghorns from a hatchery that claims they are very high show quality, they are still young cockerels but I will still send some pics to see what you guys think. I have a feeling that I would lose if I ever brought them to a show. Also, I ordered 5 hens and got 4 roosters and a hen, from a hatchery that claims to have 90% accuracy with sexing. brb

That's just so they can mark up the price. BS stuff.

If you are looking for exhibition poultry try attending a show and talking with the champions there. They'll tell ya where all the good stuff is hiding

It's the same in dogs and cats too. Most dogs you see as pets look nothing like what the breed standard calls for or what you will see being owned and showed. It's what most call backyard breeders. They just want the money and don't care about the standard.

Yup. We bought an exhibition Lhasa Apso male off a famous breeder then bought another off a backyard breeder and they looked like totally different dogs

 

[Brahma Chicken5000]

Do Light, Buff, and Dark Brahmas please

 

[OhZark Biddies]

.... I am going to run through all the appearances of famous breeds sold as pure breds at hatcheries and compare them to what they actually should look like if they were pure breds.

In the end, it is due to bad lineage like you said. They don't sell 100% pure bred birds

Okay... hold now, let's clarify what you mean by pure bred birds, so that there isn't some misinformation being put forth.

I like the thread idea, but I think this idea that hatcheries don't sell purebreds is not correct in most/many cases (I'm sure there are some hatcheries out there that have some stock that are less that pure though).

Birds can be pure bred, but stray from the standard of perfection.

But your supposition seems to be that because a bird does not closely match the SOP and/or does not match as closely as the best of the best stock of exhibition breeders, then anything less are not pure breds???

This is not true, it's just that hatcheries simply make no effort to cull in the same way that exhibitions breeders do.... and if they did they would likely not be profitable and would be out of business.

That is not to say that some hatcheries do have some polluted genetics in their breeding stock, and that backyard chicken keepers should be aware of this and purchase from the hatcheries that provide good quality birds, or purchase from an exhibition breeder if they are looking for something close to the SOP.

But this idea of: "Lets take and average bird and compare it to the best of the best, and poo-poo on commercial hatcheries and suggest that they all offer birds that are not purebred perpetuates a bit of a falsehood as far as what hatcheries are really about.

If anyone thinks that hatcheries are going to be producing or should produce the "best of the best" with in any breed, then that is likely just not in line with the reality of poultry production when comparing the two ends of the the spectrum: exhibition breeders and hatcheries.

Still it is nice to look at the pictures of the "best of the best" in each breed, such as this Leghorn pic taken from the book "The Magnificent Chicken: Portraits of the Fairest Fowl".... "Storey's Illustrated Guide to Poultry Breeds" also has some great pics of outstanding specimens.

But let's do so with the understanding of the truth of what we are comparing. Carry on... and my apologies for any distraction this posts creates.

 

[BlackHackle]

How about some Barnevelders?

I was just thinking about that lol

Barnevelders:

What they should look like: