Feeding Experiment on baby chicks.

[centrarchid]

OK @Thomas Lamprogiorgos, you got a problem that is actually relevant to question you are trying to answer. You are splitting subjects based on gender then treating genders differently. How in Hades do expect to determine if it is gender or feeding treatment that impacts performance of your subjects?

 

[Mitsos Lamprogiorgos]

You came back to quote me from five days ago because you still have your panties in a knot. Whatever.
If you think you're the expert on Leghorns or specifically U.S Leghorns be my guest but know that plenty of other people including @The Moonshiner have extensive knowledge on the breed.
Exhibition lines are not the same as utility lines because they have been bred for exhibition. I have seen plenty of White Leghorns take first place.

You live in Greece. A lot of what you say doesn't apply to the U.S.A.

In U.S.A. you have heritage utility strains that we don't have in Greece.
But, you also keep and breed from the terminal crosses of big companies. These terminal crosses are exactly the same in every place of the world. They are hybridized, much smaller than the utility heritage strains. In Greece we have agents of the biggest american companies.

 

[Mitsos Lamprogiorgos]

I my Leghorns.

Me too.
Especially the baby leghorn chicks.

 

[Mitsos Lamprogiorgos]

OK @Thomas Lamprogiorgos, you got a problem that is actually relevant to question you are trying to answer. You are splitting subjects based on gender then treating genders differently. How in Hades do expect to determine if it is gender or feeding treatment that impacts performance of your subjects?

Females follow a balanced diet, because they are going to live about 8 years.
Males must eat the less expensive feed (treats), because they are going to be killed when 4 months old to become broilers.

 

[The Moonshiner]

I don't think Thomas fully understands all the types of leghorn we have here. The types most people own here are not widely available over there and what is popular over there isn't popular here for backyard chicken owners.
When he talks about the hybrid type over there they are the same as companies here produce for egg production companies.
They're very very specifically bred for maximum production period.
The breeding program is a lot like the Cornish cross birds where there are separate lines crossed together to produce the perfect outcome.
A lot of science went into those birds.

 

[Mitsos Lamprogiorgos]

I don't think Thomas fully understands all the types of leghorn we have here. The types most people own here are not widely available over there and what is popular over there isn't popular here for backyard chicken owners.
When he talks about the hybrid type over there they are the same as companies here produce for egg production companies.
They're very very specifically bred for maximum production period.
The breeding program is a lot like the Cornish cross birds where there are separate lines crossed together to produce the perfect outcome.
A lot of science went into those birds.

You have A M E R I C A N strains of both the utility purpose and both the show purpose. I am so jealous of countries having heritage whites. I am so sad we don't have them in Greece. These strains are not selected for a criteria called "small size" and "low feed consumption. Heritage breeders breed for balance and excellent performance through a long-year laying circle.

You also have the terminal crosses of big companies (hy-line, dominant-cz, babcock, bovans, dekalb, lohmann), which are available worlwide and are much smaller than the heritage strains. These strains are selected for a criterion called "small size" and "low feed consumption". Geneticists breed for money making.

I know that there aren't other breeds involved, like in color sex links (rir X white rock, rir X barred rock etc.), but the P U R P O S E of the big companies is the same as in the color sex links.

In conclusion, white leghorn is far more than a breed. It is the most capitalistic animal in the world, the best money maker in the animal world, the animal with the most scientific researches focusing on it and beloved by the biggest amount of breeders worldwide. White Leghorns are the kings and queens who rule the laying industry.

White meat birds are based on delaware, white cornish and white rocks. And maybe some other breeds that produce yellow meat and have a skeletal system the market wants. They are not a simple cross and companies never revealed how they create them.

 

[Mitsos Lamprogiorgos]

I don't think Thomas fully understands all the types of leghorn we have here. The types most people own here are not widely available over there and what is popular over there isn't popular here for backyard chicken owners.
When he talks about the hybrid type over there they are the same as companies here produce for egg production companies.
They're very very specifically bred for maximum production period.
The breeding program is a lot like the Cornish cross birds where there are separate lines crossed together to produce the perfect outcome.
A lot of science went into those birds.

https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/chicken-breed-focus-leghorn.1152504/page-12

 

[Mitsos Lamprogiorgos]

I vaccinated my baby chicks for newcastle using live vaccines.

 

[Mitsos Lamprogiorgos]

I sold many of my chicks and just kept 20 females and 5 males.
They eat the same feed.
It is a non medicated starter-grower with vegetal coccidiostats consisted of herbs.
It has 18-20% protein.

I am impressed by their ability to feather up so fast and quickly.
This breed is amazing.
The colors are brown, not divided into dark and light brown.

 

[Cyprus]

I sold many of my chicks and just kept 20 females and 5 males.
They eat the same feed.
It is a non medicated starter-grower with vegetal coccidiostats consisted of herbs.
It has 18-20% protein.

I am impressed by their ability to feather up so fast and quickly.
This breed is amazing.
The colors are brown, not divided into dark and light brown.

That is nowhere near enough chicks to accurately measure your results.