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Getting back into the hobby need advice

Looks pretty small.....and lousy interior design.
It's a 5x6 so that'd be 7 birds. What about the design was lousy?
I do feel there are to many nest boxes, but I was planning on turning some of that into storage. I feel that on the run side you could open up more ventilation.

Builder has a walk through vid on YouTube
 
This one is now being looked at as a possibility. Is this a good option? Anything you'd change?

https://www.thirdcoastcraftsman.com/product-page/chicken-coop-and-run-plans

Rules of Thumb
  • If it looks like a dollhouse it's only suitable for toy chickens.
  • If it's measured in inches instead of feet it's too small.
  • If your walk-in closet is larger than the coop-run combo you're thinking of buying think carefully about whether you have an utterly awesome closet or are looking at a seriously undersized chicken coop.
  • If a man of average height can't lie down in the run and stretch out comfortably it's too small.
  • If it has more nestboxes than the number of chickens it can legitimately hold the designer knew nothing about chickens' actual needs and it probably has other design flaws too.

These numbers are guidelines, not hard and fast rules, but they're a good place to start when looking at plans. Don't even think about the numbers the coop claims to hold, get the dimensions and do the math. :)

The Usual Guidelines

For each adult, standard-sized hen you need:
  • 4 square feet in the coop (.37 square meters)
  • 10 square feet in the run (.93 square meters),
  • 1 linear foot of roost (.3 meters),
  • 1/4 of a nest box,
  • And 1 square foot (.09 square meters) of permanent, 24/7/365 ventilation, preferably located over the birds' heads when they're sitting on the roost.
6 hens
  • 24 square feet in the coop. 4'x6' is the only really practical build for this given the common dimensions of lumber. If you can't walk into it, put the access door in the middle of the long side to make sure you can reach all areas of the coop because a stubborn chicken WILL press itself into/lay an egg in the back corner where you can't reach.
  • 6 feet of roost
  • 60 square feet in the run. 6'x10' or 8'x8'.
  • 6 square feet of ventilation.
  • 2 nest boxes, to give the hens a choice
But since 6 is a "start with" number,

12 hens
  • 48 square feet in the coop. 6'x8' is more practical than 4'x12' since a long, skinny coop like that would be difficult to work inside.
  • 12 feet of roost
  • 120 square feet in the run. 10'x12' or 8'x15' -- 8'x16' means fewer odd cuts than either of those. 6'x20' is possible, especially if your run is an open-topped, fenced area instead of fully-enclosed with a solid and/or wire roof but risks social problems because subordinate hens need to be able to pass the dominant hens at a respectful distance.
  • 12 square feet of ventilation.
  • 3 nest boxes.
What about the design was lousy?

Diagonal roosts, like excessive nestboxes, are a tip-off that the designer didn't know anything about chickens' real needs. While they appeal to humans' sense of aesthetics and efficiency, they are not good for chickens because they won't roost on the ends where their tails get mashed against the walls so only the portion of the roost that's at least 10-12" from the wall counts.

Additionally, chickens fly at about a 45-degree angle and they need space to fly up to and down from the roosts. that means that there needs to be a distance at least the same as the roost height from the wall opposite so that they don't crash.
 
Rules of Thumb
  • If it looks like a dollhouse it's only suitable for toy chickens.
  • If it's measured in inches instead of feet it's too small.
  • If your walk-in closet is larger than the coop-run combo you're thinking of buying think carefully about whether you have an utterly awesome closet or are looking at a seriously undersized chicken coop.
  • If a man of average height can't lie down in the run and stretch out comfortably it's too small.
  • If it has more nestboxes than the number of chickens it can legitimately hold the designer knew nothing about chickens' actual needs and it probably has other design flaws too.

These numbers are guidelines, not hard and fast rules, but they're a good place to start when looking at plans. Don't even think about the numbers the coop claims to hold, get the dimensions and do the math. :)

The Usual Guidelines

For each adult, standard-sized hen you need:
  • 4 square feet in the coop (.37 square meters)
  • 10 square feet in the run (.93 square meters),
  • 1 linear foot of roost (.3 meters),
  • 1/4 of a nest box,
  • And 1 square foot (.09 square meters) of permanent, 24/7/365 ventilation, preferably located over the birds' heads when they're sitting on the roost.
6 hens
  • 24 square feet in the coop. 4'x6' is the only really practical build for this given the common dimensions of lumber. If you can't walk into it, put the access door in the middle of the long side to make sure you can reach all areas of the coop because a stubborn chicken WILL press itself into/lay an egg in the back corner where you can't reach.
  • 6 feet of roost
  • 60 square feet in the run. 6'x10' or 8'x8'.
  • 6 square feet of ventilation.
  • 2 nest boxes, to give the hens a choice
But since 6 is a "start with" number,

12 hens
  • 48 square feet in the coop. 6'x8' is more practical than 4'x12' since a long, skinny coop like that would be difficult to work inside.
  • 12 feet of roost
  • 120 square feet in the run. 10'x12' or 8'x15' -- 8'x16' means fewer odd cuts than either of those. 6'x20' is possible, especially if your run is an open-topped, fenced area instead of fully-enclosed with a solid and/or wire roof but risks social problems because subordinate hens need to be able to pass the dominant hens at a respectful distance.
  • 12 square feet of ventilation.
  • 3 nest boxes.


Diagonal roosts, like excessive nestboxes, are a tip-off that the designer didn't know anything about chickens' real needs. While they appeal to humans' sense of aesthetics and efficiency, they are not good for chickens because they won't roost on the ends where their tails get mashed against the walls so only the portion of the roost that's at least 10-12" from the wall counts.

Additionally, chickens fly at about a 45-degree angle and they need space to fly up to and down from the roosts. that means that there needs to be a distance at least the same as the roost height from the wall opposite so that they don't crash.
Thank you, so roost would need reconfigured. Like I said I don't plan on having so many unnecessary boxes. This coop would get more vents added on the tall wall. And the run would end up being 8x6 as that is the space I have allotted for the birds.

Seems like this style and the very Wichita one are very popular, all see very aesthetically doll house to me with coop sizes the same sizes.
 
That's using the 4ft rule, which is bare minimum for healthy chickens.


The diagonal roost, as already pointed out, and how the heck are you going to reach that poop board to clean it?


Yeah, there's a lot of misleading info on youtube.
I am allowed 6 birds so they'd have more than 4 sq ft., though my boss and husband say they'd prefer an 8x4 size so this could easily be modified.

Clean poop boards with a hoe type tool like 90% of the people I see with raised coops.

Yes I'm aware yt can be misleading, but it also allows to see walk through which this style and the similar Wichita style that so many here love.
 
Rather than using the nest boxes for storage, you would want to open each one up to be wider. They make them too narrow, more fitting for pigeons.
The windows open from the bottom which makes them only useful for ventilation on the hot days.
The minimum square footage only applies to floor space and your measurement includes the nest boxes. So that's a 6 bird max coop without any extra tolerance, and a difficult configuration of roosts (those windows are totally wasted).
For ease of use, I suggest you go back to the walk-in designs, make it bigger than you think you need, with good ventilation and poop boards. It's really worth the effort especially if this is the only coop you'll be building.
But of course, it's up to you what you want to do.
 
So new interior redesign. Nesting boxes external and are 18"w×16"h×16"d, roosts and poop boards going across allowing for 2x 4' roosts. 7 sq ft of vents along back and two side vents. Both sides will have doors for daylight time warm weather ventilation. I as a fully grown adult can fit in it for cleaning.

For 6 hens.
 

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