Goose Incubation & Hatching Guide - Completed!!!!

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I'm at work- the day is just dragging! Someone suggested Dawn dish soap on a Qtip, I'm going to try it when I get home. I'll snap a pic then.


Just be careful if the eggs are not washed that you don't totally wipe the bloom off. Maybe some olive oil?

If the air cell is detached they most likely won't hatch.

I've never even gotten a detached air cell to develop let alone hatch! But the fact that they are growing is a miracle in itself! I'm hoping that maybe 1 or 2 will reattach once the chorioallatonic membrane (CAM) takes over.
 
I tried warm water, Dawn soap, olive oil- nothing helped. I ended up cracking one while trying to twist it loose. What a mess that was to clean up. A piece of the shell was stuck to the turner like it was crazy glued! I've decided to leave the alone until the next candling and I will move the other eggs in that bator to a different one as soon as I have room. I'm perplexed.
 
I tried warm water, Dawn soap, olive oil- nothing helped. I ended up cracking one while trying to twist it loose. What a mess that was to clean up. A piece of the shell was stuck to the turner like it was crazy glued! I've decided to leave the alone until the next candling and I will move the other eggs in that bator to a different one as soon as I have room. I'm perplexed.

That is so strange! What day are these eggs on?
 
I tried warm water, Dawn soap, olive oil- nothing helped. I ended up cracking one while trying to twist it loose. What a mess that was to clean up. A piece of the shell was stuck to the turner like it was crazy glued! I've decided to leave the alone until the next candling and I will move the other eggs in that bator to a different one as soon as I have room. I'm perplexed.
That is so strange! What day are these eggs on?
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Day 9 I don't think you would have anything bad and oozing. What could have gotten on the rack? How many did you say are stuck? Have you used this incubator before? Sorry for all of the questions, but it is very strange and RubyNala mentioned.
 
Complete disaster.

I made my first artificial goose incubation following this great post explanation. 8 eggs from my one gooses at home. After 1 week, I removed one infertile egg. At day 14, another egg was stopped and was removed. 6 remained until the hatching time when everything went wrong, and I don't know why, that's the reason of this post...seeking help for the future.
Since I am not an expert on the subject, but work in a lab, I used for incubation an laboratory incubator with temperature and humidity fine control. Based on the post I choose 37.5ºC and 55ºC until day 21 and increase the humidity after that to 70%. (The incubator is closed, with no light).
On the 25-26th day, the first egg showed the first internal pipping (everything seems corresponding to the post description), but then I felt that the baby geese could not breath, and I made a small external pipping to help him breathing. The day after it was dead.
Three others had another problem, the geese where not able to make the internal pipping and died between the 28 and 30th day. Again it seemed a problem of suffocation. Today the last one also died. Yesterday I saw the internal pipping and made the artificial external pipping. Today on the morning it seemed with difficulties to bread, and died also during the afternoon. I opened the eggs but I can not understand what went wrong. Can anyone help me? (The first 3 images were with internal pipping (28 days), the other 4 were without (30 days))



 
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Day 9 I don't think you would have anything bad and oozing.  What could have gotten on the rack?  How many did you say are stuck?  Have you used this incubator before?  Sorry for all of the questions, but it is very strange and RubyNala mentioned.

Successfully removed all but one egg- I cracked it while trying to twist it out. Of the ones that were removed, 2 of them had a slight groove where they had settled in the tray. It's the strangest thing. They were received by mail and sat for about a day and a half before they were placed in the tray of the prewarmed incubator. We had room in another bator, so we moved the remaining eggs into it and used a nail file to smooth the edges of the eggs cradle areas of the tray. There was nothing sticky or noticeable on the tray- other than the contents of the egg that I accidentally cracked, as I mentioned above. The eggs are very large, so we think maybe a rough area on them and the sharp area of the tray, but I guess I'll never know for sure. It's just odd, because we've used this tray a few other times, and with XL eggs. Hopefully, after smoothing the edges of the tray, we won't have this come up again.
 
Complete disaster. I made my first artificial goose incubation following this great post explanation. 8 eggs from my one gooses at home. After 1 week, I removed one infertile egg. At day 14, another egg was stopped and was removed. 6 remained until the hatching time when everything went wrong, and I don't know why, that's the reason of this post...seeking help for the future. Since I am not an expert on the subject, but work in a lab, I used for incubation an laboratory incubator with temperature and humidity fine control. Based on the post I choose 37.5ºC and 55ºC until day 21 and increase the humidity after that to 70%. (The incubator is closed, with no light). On the 25-26th day, the first egg showed the first internal pipping (everything seems corresponding to the post description), but then I felt that the baby geese could not breath, and I made a small external pipping to help him breathing. The day after it was dead. Three others had another problem, the geese where not able to make the internal pipping and died between the 28 and 30th day. Again it seemed a problem of suffocation. Today the last one also died. Yesterday I saw the internal pipping and made the artificial external pipping. Today on the morning it seemed with difficulties to bread, and died also during the afternoon. I opened the eggs but I can not understand what went wrong. Can anyone help me? (The first 3 images were with internal pipping (28 days), the other 4 were without (30 days)) [COLOR=B42000] [/COLOR]
I'm so sorry that this happened!! First, I just want to say that I have never hatched geese. But I do successfully hatch chickens, peafowl, quails and currently trying my hand at ducks. From your pictures I do think I know what went wrong. I believe that your humidity was to high. Having your humidity to high throughout incubation will prevent your air cells from growing sufficiently. This leads the baby to grow to big and not be able to get out of the shell. There is no "right" number that your humidity should be. You must monitor your air cells to make sure they are growing properly. I trace my air cells with a pencil once a week throughout incubation. Having the lines traced gives me a good way to measure the growth for the week. I would definitely try again and lower your humidity. You can start around 35% and then check your growth from there. If they look to big after the first week then increase by about 5-10%. If they look to small (which I don't think they would at that %) you can decrease a little. Also, how long were they pipped before you made the whole? There are times when this is necessary but keep in mind that when they pip they start breathing oxygen and releasing Carbon dioxide. As the carbon dioxide increases and the oxygen decreases and it cause their neck to twitch, which then makes them pip the egg with the egg tooth. So normally they will naturally pip as they run out of oxygen. But sometimes this process can not take place properly for one reason or another and a safety hole can be made. It's best to make a tiny hole, the size of a pen tip. This will allow oxygen to enter without exposing to much membrane and drying it out. Please let me know if you have any questions!! I really hope you try again! I will try and find a picture of how big the air cells should be for geese. Here's a picture for chicken eggs, it's based on a 21 day incubation but the theory is the same.
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Edited to add: that the second baby was malpositioned, the yolk sac was facing the air cell and and the beak was facing the pointy end. Sometimes they are able to pip the pointy end. I've had lots of successful hatches come from being malpositioned, I've never lost one.
Successfully removed all but one egg- I cracked it while trying to twist it out. Of the ones that were removed, 2 of them had a slight groove where they had settled in the tray. It's the strangest thing. They were received by mail and sat for about a day and a half before they were placed in the tray of the prewarmed incubator. We had room in another bator, so we moved the remaining eggs into it and used a nail file to smooth the edges of the eggs cradle areas of the tray. There was nothing sticky or noticeable on the tray- other than the contents of the egg that I accidentally cracked, as I mentioned above. The eggs are very large, so we think maybe a rough area on them and the sharp area of the tray, but I guess I'll never know for sure. It's just odd, because we've used this tray a few other times, and with XL eggs. Hopefully, after smoothing the edges of the tray, we won't have this come up again.
That is so strange!! I'm glad you were able to free most of them!
 
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Thanks for your help. The humidity I choose was based in what is on the web, of course I imagine it may change with the accuracy of the equipment. The incubator I used is pretty exact since is for research (but for other purposes rather than egg incubation) therefore I suppose the humidity on the display must be correct. I do not have experience to comment on your explanation of "high humidity". I first was wondering if the problem was due to low humidity that could difficult the breaking of the egg shell (the goose egg is pretty hard...) but you maybe right with the difficult of the baby to move due to is oversize.
I was controlling every day the size of the air cell, but I do not have a size comparison to know if it is big or small...it seemed ok compare to the picture in this post...but....

In respect to the internal pipping, it happen in just two eggs (the other four did not turn...malpositioned). The external pipping was only made after more than 24 hours of the internal pipping. The size of the hole, was small, no more than 2-3 milliliters. I could see the baby geese beak knocking from inside (before I made the external pipping), but it no success.

I really don't have any explanation, and until this moment yours is the first possibility.
I have two other questions....
1) Does the egg need any light during incubation? (My incubator was closed...dark)
2) The hatching should occur inside the incubator or we need to move the eggs to any other place before hatching?

Thanks again for your help, and anybody else.
 

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