Gun control and the second amendment....

[Matthew3590]

Y'all should read this.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/...ess-conversation_n_2311009.html?utm_hp_ref=tw

 

[chickened]

We have several rights guaranteed here in America. We also have a procedure to add or remove those rights and those procedures are tough and they are made that way if for any reason so that we are sure and double and triple and ... sure that we are doing the right thing. Infringing on those rights is not allowed. We should remove it or leave it be. Eourpe has chosen to remove that right and that is their choice and the people that I hear constantly from those regions that enjoy the good things about gun ownership wish it was not so. Freedom and our rights have a price associated with them and I think as a people we cas solve the problems in our society and maintain our rights. I am a firm beleiver in the premise that when someone wants to kill you you must kill them first there is no second chance, no "timeout" no pause to extra lives no free men no re-spawn this is not a video game you shoot me I die or I shoot you first and the bad guy dies it is that simple, rudementry and decisive... and final.

 

[chickened]

Y'all should read this.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/...ess-conversation_n_2311009.html?utm_hp_ref=tw

Very good article.

If anyone wonders how a great nation that no invading army can ever conquer finds utter destruction and collapse this may be a how it begins.

 

[satay]

I come from a a country with gun control. If you are a farmer you can still own a licenced gun or belong to a shooting club. Criminals can still get guns, knives whatever if they want to. Hubby and I were watching the news when this tragedy happened and we both said gun control would not work over there. I am not sure what is the answer for everyone over there but i sure hope something can be done so no more innocent children are lost. My sympathies go to all americans for this tragic loss of young lives.

 

[hemet dennis]

I'm a big fan of sarcasm, really, but this isn't sarcasm, just an absurd reaction. You can disagree with me, and I can respect that, but what makes a discussion about such an important subject impossible is ridiculing other people's opinions in a way like you just did.
It hurts me to browse the internet and see all the discussions about the right to own weapons, and to notice that nobody is interested in another opinion but their own. How will that solve any problem?

Are you interested in the opinions of others ? You say that having very few guns in the hands of the citizens is a good thing. If we could ask the 100,000 Jews that were unarmed and rounded up and sent to there deaths by the Germans do you think they would agree that being unarmed was best for them ?




I would put something here but I'm not allowed to

 

[ChickensRDinos]

Are you interested in the opinions of others ? You say that having very few guns in the hands of the citizens is a good thing. If we could ask the 100,000 Jews that were unarmed and rounded up and sent to there deaths by the Germans do you think they would agree that being unarmed was best for them ?




I would put something here but I'm not allowed to

Thinking that the holocaust happened simply because not everyone was armed or that in some way guns would have prevented this from happening is a vast over simplification and a huge disservice to understanding what actually did happen.

 

[Capvin]

Thinking that the holocaust happened simply because not everyone was armed or that in some way guns would have prevented this from happening is a vast over simplification and a huge disservice to understanding what actually did happen.

This post could not be more right! Using the Holocaust as a comparable in any way or thinking that it would have been otherwise if they were armed is just way off. Many of the Jews were armed but it was like a pea shooter against an elephant gun.

 

[hemet dennis]

Thinking that the holocaust happened simply because not everyone was armed or that in some way guns would have prevented this from happening is a vast over simplification and a huge disservice to understanding what actually did happen.

I didn't say it would have prevented anything did I ? And I didn't say it happened because people weren't armed did I ?
Please don't put words in my mouth.
But I think the 100,000 Jews in the Netherlands would have rather had a chance to die fighting then to be rounded up like sheep and taken to slaughter.




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[Q9]

She was not the only one on the panel this morning who is calling for or supports some kind of limitation on the use and ownership of assault type weapons. The voices are now many and will increase rapidily until some kind of restriction becomes the law of the land.

Also, I find it hard to comprehend the reasoning behind this theory that the more guns in more peoples hands will make us safer, It is as lucid as the recent statements made by that fat pig, Huckabee and the Westboro Baptist Church. Birds of a feather.

Well, we have a significantly lower violent crime rate than the U.K., despite our figures being skewed upwards by Chicago, DC, NYC, LA, etc. Heck, the U.K. has a worse violent crime rate than freaking South Africa.

I'd say that makes a pretty freaking good argument for more guns = less crime.

 

[ChickensRDinos]

I didn't say it would have prevented anything did I ? And I didn't say it happened because people weren't armed did I ?
Please don't put words in my mouth.
But I think the 100,000 Jews in the Netherlands would have rather had a chance to die fighting then to be rounded up like sheep and taken to slaughter.




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Then why are you bringing it up in a completely irrelevant context?