HELP DIAGNOSE OUR MYSTERY ILLNESS.

[casportpony]

Did you look in the cattle, horse or goat section for wormer? I think any wormer that ende in zole should work.

-Kathy

 

[ChookBook]

post a picture of her poop.

-Kathy

I will as soon as I spot a "fresh" one (that sounds absolutly horrible- sincerly sorry

) as they're all dried up when I find them and are almost unidentifiable.
As a temporary description, they really vary and don't entirely fall under any one category all up. Some look rather normal; medium sized, solid and browny green. Others are like diarrhea with bits of green poop around. Earlier on we found some green solids with bits of undigested seeds scattered around. Once she dispensed a lime (really lime) green poop.

Sorry for the bad description- I'll get a photo ASAP.

 

[Michael Apple]

Welcome to BYC!​

Not much medication in a pea sized amount

... If using the horse paste, I would use it that same as the liquid and the amount of liquid I use is .5ml per 2.2 pounds, which is 50mg/kg, the amount my avian vet recommended.

FYI, 1ml of paste weighs one gram, so it has 100 mg fenbendazole in it. And yes, I did weigh it .

From left to right:
Small = 10mg ( .1cc) = enough for a 200 gram (7 ounce) bird at 50mg/kg
Medium = 25mg (.25cc) = enough for a 500 gram (17 ounce) bird at 50mg/kg
Large = 50mg ( .5cc) = enough for a 1000 gram (35 ounce) bird at 50mg/kg

Good assistance with info. X2.
Might want to back off on the ACV too. ACV is an antibacterial and strips the intestinal lining when given too often. It also washes out much needed calcium before mature birds have a chance to absorb it. I'll never understand the trend/obsession with ACV as some kind of wonder tonic when probiotics and properly formulated feed is so much more important.

 

[ChookBook]

I did, but only briefly as we were in a rush to meet with family at the beach. I'll go back again today as we'll be driving past later on.

They ought to have something with a "zole" in it, their health shelves are super stocked.

Thanks for your help Kathy!

 

[ChookBook]

ALLLLSOO!

I've found some more information on mites regarding symptoms and I think she's showing majority. The girls have been de-mited a few times before but not in some time as we were away. I'll report any changing results if there are any.

 

[ChookBook]

Good assistance with info. X2.
Might want to back off on the ACV too. ACV is an antibacterial and strips the intestinal lining when given too often. It also washes out much needed calcium before mature birds have a chance to absorb it. I'll never understand the trend/obsession with ACV as some kind of wonder tonic when probiotics and properly formulated feed is so much more important.

Thankyou for letting me know! x

 

[TwoCrows]

Quote: ACV is not an antibiotic. It has no antibiotic properties at all in it. It helps to raise the ph of the body. The idea is to raise the ph high enough that bacteria and fungus's can't survive in the high alkaline environment.

 

[Michael Apple]

ACV is not an antibiotic. It has no antibiotic properties at all in it. It helps to raise the ph of the body. The idea is to raise the ph high enough that bacteria and fungus's can't survive in the high alkaline environment.

I never said it was. It is an antibacterial, and nowhere near effective against fungi as good sanitation, ventilation, dry litter, proper storage of feed, clean feeders and waterers, and of course, proper diet . Even so, ACV should not be given regularly as so many seem to recommend on this forum. How high do you need the bird's ph to be?

Proper diet and lactobacillus maintain ph in addition to helping resist enteritis from salmonella group bacteria and protozoa.
http://ps.fass.org/content/79/1/7.full.pdf

Read this and understand why ACV is a nonessential addition to a chicken's diet: http://www.thepoultrysite.com/articles/980/gut-management-microbiota-and-enteric-disease

 

[casportpony]

I also don't understand why so many people give it every day...

-Kathy

 

[realsis]

X2. It does raise the pH level and really should only be given for one week a month for the nutrient value. But I don't believe it's a cure all. In my humble opinion it's being over used. In some research I've done it should not be given longer than one week a month.personally I use a good probotic that provides beneficial bacteria that their system needs.over use of acv can actually unbalance their system by making it too acidic. You want and need a good balanced system by adding beneficial bacteria and not making such a acidic environment. So I use a powdered probotic for poultry that includes several different beneficial bacterias.