It's ok. Different strokes for different folks I guess. I don't mind the jokes , but I find that making up stupid exotic names for a tiny, generally brown bird for the sake of selling them is annoying. Also, I find that shameless self promotion in an attempt to sell stuff on these threads annoys me, especially since there is a specific section on BYC just to sell stuff. It's easy to stop the trash talkin', all someone has to do is produce a line of cortunix quail that consistantly produces 16-18 plus, ounce birds (that we constantly hear about) without enhanced feeding, lighting, 2 years, or other tactics, and the skeptics will be silenced. The problem is, that universities with unlimited funding tried it and failed. I'm not so sure that a backyard breeder with a ton of eggs to sell is gonna pull it off.