I am planning to do something controversial, eating eggs immediately after worming with Ivermectin.

[addctd2plnts]

After discovering my flock has depluming mites, I ordered Ivermectin 1% and Saturday, I treated every chicken in my flock. Since then, I've agonized over egg withdrawal protocols and searched high and low for information on why we observed this little ritual after we worm our chickens. Nothing out there tells me why we have to do this. What will happen to me if I eat these eggs? If I can't find a scientific or medical or even common sense answer to my question, I am forced to conclude a proscription against something may boil down to hysterical nonsense.

Therefore, in the absence of scientific studies on what happens to humans that eat eggs following worming with Ivermectin, I am going to conduct, if not an actual scientific study, at least an experiment using myself as the study subject. And this is a real time thread as I plan to march into the kitchen right now and cook some eggs and eat while reporting the experience as it unfolds.

It's is 10:06 am, and I just took my first bit of three scrambled eggs. I am now consuming them.

As a human doctor, I'm sure it will be completely fine LOL Any dose you could get would be ignificantly lower than the therapeutic dose we give to humans. Ivermectin is an unusual drug in that the margin of safety is VERY wide! People and animals can get up to 8 times the therapeutic dose with no serious or long lasting side effects. If you take 8 times the dose of most medications, you will most likely have serious side effects and some may kill you! It's one of the safest and most important drugs ever discovered!

We use injectible Ivermectin orally in rescue dogs as a lower cost way to give Heartworm prevention. I can figure out the dose for any weight dog but I know there's plenty of people that eyeball it from 1/10th of a CC, up to a full cc for a giant dog, and they never have dogs die. The only ones that should never get Ivermectin are dogs in the collie family: Aussies, Border Colles, English Shepherds, Collies, Scotch Collies, Collie mixes

 

[azygous]

Thank you so much for that professional input @addctd2plnts . This is a very valuable contribution to my thread, something I was hoping would occur!

I want to repeat that when selling any eggs laid within the withdrawal period, I plan to fully disclose they may have traces of the worming med and leave it up to them to decide to buy the eggs to consume. I did want to be able to tell them I have eaten the eggs and so have others with no ill effects.

 

[MadGardener]

I wonder if egg withdrawal is a precaution against drug interactions or food allergies in people. It seems over-cautious to me, but avoiding lawsuits is imporant to the drug companies.

 

[Kiki]

As a human doctor, I'm sure it will be completely fine LOL Any dose you could get would be ignificantly lower than the therapeutic dose we give to humans. Ivermectin is an unusual drug in that the margin of safety is VERY wide! People and animals can get up to 8 times the therapeutic dose with no serious or long lasting side effects. If you take 8 times the dose of most medications, you will most likely have serious side effects and some may kill you! It's one of the safest and most important drugs ever discovered!

We use injectible Ivermectin orally in rescue dogs as a lower cost way to give Heartworm prevention. I can figure out the dose for any weight dog but I know there's plenty of people that eyeball it from 1/10th of a CC, up to a full cc for a giant dog, and they never have dogs die. The only ones that should never get Ivermectin are dogs in the collie family: Aussies, Border Colles, English Shepherds, Collies, Scotch Collies, Collie mixes

What type of human doctor are you?

 

[springvalley123]

I can't find it anymore, but there was a public reg in the US where they eliminated the withdrawal period, I think it was for low dose/routine use of the drug. I've considered a plausible test/calculation. If a chicken gets .46ml of a certain percentage of ivermectin, and I assume that that amount goes equally to the entire hen's body, including her egg yolk, I'm getting a fraction of the .46 ml. Considering how much more I weigh than the hen, I agree (and am apparently backed up by a medical doctor, if based on different reasoning), it makes sense that it wouldn't hurt you. It's amazing how often we parrot various advice without thinking, including the egg withdrawal recommendations. Way to go Azygous!

 

[aart]

As a human doctor

Maybe you can tell us the difference between formulations for humans and pets/livestock?

What type of human doctor are you?

Curious about that too.

 

[Kiki]

I can't find it anymore, but there was a public reg in the US where they eliminated the withdrawal period, I think it was for low dose/routine use of the drug. I've considered a plausible test/calculation. If a chicken gets .46ml of a certain percentage of ivermectin, and I assume that that amount goes equally to the entire hen's body, including her egg yolk, I'm getting a fraction of the .46 ml. Considering how much more I weigh than the hen, I agree (and am apparently backed up by a medical doctor, if based on different reasoning), it makes sense that it wouldn't hurt you. It's amazing how often we parrot various advice without thinking, including the egg withdrawal recommendations. Way to go Azygous!

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29378154/

And from another study:

 

[BlindLemonChicken]

As a human doctor, I'm sure it will be completely fine LOL Any dose you could get would be ignificantly lower than the therapeutic dose we give to humans. Ivermectin is an unusual drug in that the margin of safety is VERY wide! People and animals can get up to 8 times the therapeutic dose with no serious or long lasting side effects. If you take 8 times the dose of most medications, you will most likely have serious side effects and some may kill you! It's one of the safest and most important drugs ever discovered!

We use injectible Ivermectin orally in rescue dogs as a lower cost way to give Heartworm prevention. I can figure out the dose for any weight dog but I know there's plenty of people that eyeball it from 1/10th of a CC, up to a full cc for a giant dog, and they never have dogs die. The only ones that should never get Ivermectin are dogs in the collie family: Aussies, Border Colles, English Shepherds, Collies, Scotch Collies, Collie mixes

Good to know! I have a collie mix

 

[kurby22]

Following

 

[sourland]

If you have worms or external parasites, perhaps this will help.