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Every year our garden gets bigger and we buy a couple more cases of canning jars. We haven't bought any poultry from the store in quite a few years, we both hunt so we put a few deer in the freezer every year. Still guilty of buying pork and beef. (only every now and then on the beef - we like deer better)
Steve
Remember what happened to the Kulaks in Soviet Russia. Just because they were hard working, thrifty and self sufficient, Stalin had them exterminated, their food stuffs confiscated and their lands were converted to big state run farms. Why should they eat while the rest of the nation starved?
If you have a year's supply of food stashed away, I sure wouldn't talk about it.
Rufus
In those days you didn't question Mother Russia or father Joeseph, times have changed and the USSR no longer exsists.
Once again it's simple supply and demand.If you don't buy it the price will go down. You can't stop crops from growing any more than you can shut down an oil well or refinery a surplus is good for the buyer. think about it
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Remember what happened to the Kulaks in Soviet Russia. Just because they were hard working, thrifty and self sufficient, Stalin had them exterminated, their food stuffs confiscated and their lands were converted to big state run farms. Why should they eat while the rest of the nation starved?
If you have a year's supply of food stashed away, I sure wouldn't talk about it.
Rufus
In those days you didn't question Mother Russia or father Joeseph, times have changed and the USSR no longer exsists.
Once again it's simple supply and demand.If you don't buy it the price will go down. You can't stop crops from growing any more than you can shut down an oil well or refinery a surplus is good for the buyer. think about it
Steve
In some countries, governments have sprayed herbicides on small farms to force people to buy certain foods they wanted them to buy, and increase poverty. Governments cans top you from growing crops if they want you too.
Political risk is always a real factor, especially now that we have a govt so large and so entrenched that it is likely to do literally anything in a moments notice to maintain itself.
The dying beast thrashes wildly and this one is sure to do just that before it admits that maybe it has grown beyond it's legitemate scope.
They confiscated the people's gold in 33 and I have no illusions that they wouldn't do the same tomorrow.
Good thing the government is considerably smaller than it was in the 80's. I'm shaking in my boots worrying about the government confiscating my food.
. It's always a good idea to have a surplus in case a realistic situation occurs. Talk about the gov taking your stuff should go over to the fear mongers on the other thread. A reversal of the current recovery is a definite possibility but the gov is coming to take my stuff is silly. IMO of course.
We HAD a surplus of food, then Ken's best friend let us know his parents had a stick of butter, a bottle of syrup and some tortillas. *sigh* There went the surplus.
I think if we all adopt a mindset to help the needy around us... Well what comes around goes around.
yesterday, my wife added to our supplies. 4 more cases of Wheat in big cans, a case of powdered milk and then some freeze dried stuff. We've started adding it to our regular menus.... but we need a better wheat grinder.... the one we have is fine for cracked wheat, but not for flour.
I think the one thing that can make the productive and thrifty fare better than the Kulaks is, in the US the class lines aren't as firm as they were in old Russia. In old Europe, the military were a certain class, the police, the politicians, the farmers, the merchants .... you didn't have a kid growing up on a farm then joining the military then becoming a cop then later going back to the farm .... there was almost no social mobility. In the US, if they tell the troops to fire on or round up say, farmers, or small shopkeepers, they're going to have a problem because a good number of those troops come from the same kind of people.
And we're well-armed. Now this is going to bring a storm of comments about how a gun can't take on a tank or a helicopter gunship. First, a gun can, with accurate shooting! Second, look at how a bunch of barefoot Middle-Eastern hillbillies are making fools of us Over There.
Lastly, the more we can get people interested in gardening and keeping chickens and being frugal and forward-thinking, the less we're some odd "fringe" group and the more of the general populace are on our side, because they've become us - farming, gardening, livestock-raising, future-preparing, salt-of-the-earth type people.