International Black Copper Marans Thread - Breeding to the SOP

[Chickadee7790]

Good afternoon, everyone. It was suggested on another thread that I post my pictures here for thoughts on whether my McMurray mystery chick is a BCM. She does not have feathered legs/feet, but some have said that BCM's don't always have them? Thoughts??

 

[BlueTheBrahma]

don t read to much my friend ,you will get mixed up .
what 3 cuckoo marans varieties? silver and golden what else ?
Ozmarans

The three cuckoo varieties recognised by the Marans club of GB are dark (extended black based), silver (silver birchen based) and golden (golden birchen/BC based).

The dark is the most common here, often used for solid black sex links. They are called dark cuckoo but the breeders all confirm they are double barred cock birds.

 

[BlueTheBrahma]

here a photo of my F2 golden cuckoo hen , daughter of Rashad F1 GCM
View attachment 4114978
Ozmarans

Thank you very much, the photographs are very useful because the internet photos are usually poorly bred. I’ve read up on the GCM thread you suggested last year, it’s been helpful but yours seem to be the best for being cuckoo plumage in the whole back.

 

[BlueTheBrahma]

Not a BCM my friend. The comb type, beard, and legs show this is more likely an olive egger, a cross for green eggs.

Good afternoon, everyone. It was suggested on another thread that I post my pictures here for thoughts on whether my McMurray mystery chick is a BCM. She does not have feathered legs/feet, but some have said that BCM's don't always have them? Thoughts??View attachment 4115144

 

[BlueTheBrahma]

@ozmarans these are the colour descriptions from the British Poultry Standards (our equivalent to the American SOP book).
Only the dark is commonly seen, though poorly bred ones may resemble silvers if they are too light.

this is the photo example for a dark cuckoo marans bantam cock. They are double barred, as they breed true, but bred so that the double barred males match the hens in shade as closely as possible.

 

[BlueTheBrahma]

@ozmarans would you say that Napoleon here has over-fluffy thighs?

(I’ve reused the last photo I posted because I don’t have newer ones).

 

[ozmarans]

The three cuckoo varieties recognised by the Marans club of GB are dark (extended black based), silver (silver birchen based) and golden (golden birchen/BC based).

The dark is the most common here, often used for solid black sex links. They are called dark cuckoo but the breeders all confirm they are double barred cock birds.

I completly forgot about them ,Dark cuckoo ,Thank you
ozmarans

 

[ozmarans]

View attachment 4115234View attachment 4115230@ozmarans these are the colour descriptions from the British Poultry Standards (our equivalent to the American SOP book).
Only the dark is commonly seen, though poorly bred ones may resemble silvers if they are too light.View attachment 4115231this is the photo example for a dark cuckoo marans bantam cock. They are double barred, as they breed true, but bred so that the double barred males match the hens in shade as closely as possible.

the best dark cuckoo will be the one come out of Double barred cockbird over a solid black hen , all the progeny will be dark cuckoo old schol UK strain ,
ozmarans

 

[ozmarans]

@ozmarans would you say that Napoleon here has over-fluffy thighs?View attachment 4116031
(I’ve reused the last photo I posted because I don’t have newer ones).

not really he has big Abdomen ( bumb) for sure , I like his chest plumage very sleak not loose ,
Ozmarans

 

[Chickadee7790]

Not a BCM my friend. The comb type, beard, and legs show this is more likely an olive egger, a cross for green eggs.

Thank you so much! I'm still quite new to this game, so I appreciate your expertise.