So now that, that post is done i got all the replied out of the way.
i own a Janoel 8-48 a real one. It has been running non-stop for 140+ days and constantly incubating. The conditions at my house vary in a single day they can go from 50F-110F, the incubator sits 3 ft from the door outside, it sits 1 ft from a air vent that doesnt work and just lets in cold air from under the house, and it sits in front of a large single pane window. So basically i have in pretty much the worst conditions possible and i still get 100% on local eggs. My janoel does not have a single modification made to it. The eggs get labeled, dated and put in the bator(where there may be other eggs already incubating) no water is ever put in my bator, the lid is put back on the bator, turner hooked up, bator turned on. Eggs are candle once between 4-10 days depending on if i need space or not, clears, bloodrings, dead eggs are pulled. On day 18 eggs move to the hatcher with one foil bread pan of water or one channel of water if it is in styro bator. Eggs hatch on day 19 and day 20...the evening of day 21 all eggs are opened thru the aircell. If anything is dead it gets disposed of, anything alive is checked for veins then an internal pip is made for them and they are placed back in the bator or the membrane is pulled back and the head is lifted up so it is not stuck if all veins are receded.
Basically dont open the bator unless needed, if you live in a very wet place dont add water until lockdown, at lockdown you only need 40-60% humidity to hatch, hatching at day 19-20 is fine...hatching at day 22-23 is not good, those chicks usually die, stop being obsessed with the temp and humidity...take out the extra meters and set the heat at 37.5C then dont adjust it, stop modifying the janoel...dont put extra holes, insulation, seals etc on it. The real janoel is a solid design that incubates excellantly if left alone.
The biggest problems i have seen with the janoel and most incubators is to much fiddling...to much worrying...the temp went up..the temp went down...the humidity says its to high...it says its to low...i candled 3 times before day 7..i'm worried it doesnt turn enough. If you have a real janoel you are really really worrying way way to much. Incubators are designed to be set and left alone, by fiddling with them and turning the temps up and down and adding water and taking out water and opening and closing vents, your really making it hard on the incubator and the eggs. i know because i did all the same stuff and i had horrid hatches like 0 of 15....1 of 12...4 of 20...etc.
Just try it once....take everything out..put the eggs in..cover any extra vents you made...take off the insulation....ziptie the sensor back where they should be...shut the lid and turn it on....candle once between day 7-10 removed back eggs then candle at lockdown on day 18. You will have good hatched i even get 75+% on shipped eggs.
I'm not trying to be mean at all and i hope no one takes it that way but ive run 100s of eggs thru this same incubator and learned if you leave it alone it works awesome. The only people who should be adding water before day 18 are those in dry climates like say arizona...most other wet states have enough ambient humidity to do perfectly fine incubating eggs.
i own a Janoel 8-48 a real one. It has been running non-stop for 140+ days and constantly incubating. The conditions at my house vary in a single day they can go from 50F-110F, the incubator sits 3 ft from the door outside, it sits 1 ft from a air vent that doesnt work and just lets in cold air from under the house, and it sits in front of a large single pane window. So basically i have in pretty much the worst conditions possible and i still get 100% on local eggs. My janoel does not have a single modification made to it. The eggs get labeled, dated and put in the bator(where there may be other eggs already incubating) no water is ever put in my bator, the lid is put back on the bator, turner hooked up, bator turned on. Eggs are candle once between 4-10 days depending on if i need space or not, clears, bloodrings, dead eggs are pulled. On day 18 eggs move to the hatcher with one foil bread pan of water or one channel of water if it is in styro bator. Eggs hatch on day 19 and day 20...the evening of day 21 all eggs are opened thru the aircell. If anything is dead it gets disposed of, anything alive is checked for veins then an internal pip is made for them and they are placed back in the bator or the membrane is pulled back and the head is lifted up so it is not stuck if all veins are receded.
Basically dont open the bator unless needed, if you live in a very wet place dont add water until lockdown, at lockdown you only need 40-60% humidity to hatch, hatching at day 19-20 is fine...hatching at day 22-23 is not good, those chicks usually die, stop being obsessed with the temp and humidity...take out the extra meters and set the heat at 37.5C then dont adjust it, stop modifying the janoel...dont put extra holes, insulation, seals etc on it. The real janoel is a solid design that incubates excellantly if left alone.
The biggest problems i have seen with the janoel and most incubators is to much fiddling...to much worrying...the temp went up..the temp went down...the humidity says its to high...it says its to low...i candled 3 times before day 7..i'm worried it doesnt turn enough. If you have a real janoel you are really really worrying way way to much. Incubators are designed to be set and left alone, by fiddling with them and turning the temps up and down and adding water and taking out water and opening and closing vents, your really making it hard on the incubator and the eggs. i know because i did all the same stuff and i had horrid hatches like 0 of 15....1 of 12...4 of 20...etc.
Just try it once....take everything out..put the eggs in..cover any extra vents you made...take off the insulation....ziptie the sensor back where they should be...shut the lid and turn it on....candle once between day 7-10 removed back eggs then candle at lockdown on day 18. You will have good hatched i even get 75+% on shipped eggs.
I'm not trying to be mean at all and i hope no one takes it that way but ive run 100s of eggs thru this same incubator and learned if you leave it alone it works awesome. The only people who should be adding water before day 18 are those in dry climates like say arizona...most other wet states have enough ambient humidity to do perfectly fine incubating eggs.
