Lethargic, paralyzed and dying

[Roseyroberts]

Can a video be posted?

 

[goldeggs]

I have a hen which is listless and has a pale comb. Very weak and thin ..suspecting coccidiosis. I don't have any amprol to put in water but do have a bag of medicated chick starter. Will this help or do i still need to run to my vet to get soluble meds?

 

[Roseyroberts]

Ok. Yesterday I cleaned out the coops trying g to find anything that could cause Botulism. I found under a plastic bin that I have flipped over for the girls to lay in.. Bugs. Lots of them. Maggots and bottles in the dirt. I assume from maybe eggs gettingcracked or broken. something like that. I cleaned it all out. The whole thing. And used sevin on it. Today I was using ivomectrin pour on for lice (I think) I seen a few on the inpatient so I thought I better treat everyone.
Several of my birds have been loosing feathers badly they are about 4 months old. I found one like this. I didn't see it because the wing feathers cover it. I just thought it had missing tail feathers. I didn't see much for mites but I did dust with DE a few and half ago. What is causing this??

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[Roseyroberts]

 

[Roseyroberts]

While using the ivomectrin I found that some have yucky bottoms (white) and seem too thin. I bought new food today because they have seemed hungry but not putting weight on.

 

[Roseyroberts]

Anyone want to help me? Please??

 

[speckledhen]

First of all, did you ever treat for coccidiosis? Just checking. May not be a big thing in your area, but it is in mine. The age is prime for it, though the symptoms other than lethargy don't sound much like it, though there are newer, mutated forms of cocci that don't follow the pattern and require a double dose of Corid (medicated feed is useless for cocci, no matter what they tell you). You might not even see bloody poop.

Other than Mareks, botulism (eating maggots of a dead animal will do that, so yes, the maggots you found COULD cause botulism), I'm not sure what else. You'd almost have to have one of the ones that died tested by a vet to see what happened, to be sure.

Feather loss is normal in juveniles as they get the more mature feathers. My juvie pens look like something plucked chickens in there right now. I doubt worms-I've never wormed a juvenile, not ever. (For future reference, they can get a lot of different worms and Wazine treats only roundworms)

For botulism, a molasses flush is called for.

 

[Roseyroberts]

First of all, did you ever treat for coccidiosis? Just checking. May not be a big thing in your area, but it is in mine. The age is prime for it, though the symptoms other than lethargy don't sound much like it, though there are newer, mutated forms of cocci that don't follow the pattern and require a double dose of Corid (medicated feed is useless for cocci, no matter what they tell you). You might not even see bloody poop.

Other than Mareks, botulism (eating maggots of a dead animal will do that, so yes, the maggots you found COULD cause botulism), I'm not sure what else. You'd almost have to have one of the ones that died tested by a vet to see what happened, to be sure.

Feather loss is normal in juveniles as they get the more mature feathers. My juvie pens look like something plucked chickens in there right now. I doubt worms-I've never wormed a juvenile, not ever. (For future reference, they can get a lot of different worms and Wazine treats only roundworms)

For botulism, a molasses flush is called for.

I have ordered Corid since they don't have it local. What is strange is that even tho I am seeing messy bottoms all of the poo I'm finding looks completely normal in everyone but the two I have separated.

 

[casportpony]

Quote: Can you post some pictures of both normal poo and cecal poo?

-Kathy

 

[speckledhen]

I have ordered Corid since they don't have it local. What is strange is that even tho I am seeing messy bottoms all of the poo I'm finding looks completely normal in everyone but the two I have separated.

I'm not saying they have cocci for certain, mind you, but since you did not mention it and they are the right age, thought I'd bring it up. It's the most common cause of lethargy and death in a certain age bracket of chicks. However, the mutated type that a necropsy showed in youngsters owned by a friend (hatched from eggs sent by a breeder in the midwest to me in GA for my friend in KY, who was coming to visit-they were a surprise for her) showed no abnormal poop. They were weeks old, developing normally, lethargic one day, two at the most, then just died, one after the other. The necropsy showed a type of coccidiosis that is, of all weird things, passed down from the parent stock through the egg to the chick.

So, there are some things with chickens that just are not textbook situations and would require more expert hands-on testing/consultation than we can give over the web. I hope you can figure it out. As casportpony said, pictures of the poop might help us some.