Let's have a gosling hatchalong!

[RiverGoddess]

Hi RiverGoddess - all the aircells are looking to be a good size so shouldn't be too long before external pipping. Are your Dewlap eggs on about Day 27 now?

Just look for shadowing in the aircell on candling or listen for the regular clicking noise to confirm internal pipping.

Don't forget to post your incubator setting for incubation for other members interest as Dewlaps not always easy to hatch. Is that an Emu egg I see in there too? I'll bet you've had a job knowing if that ones fertile!

Here's a link for the thread we did for Rhea incubation for you;

https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/...ation-candling-hatching-warning-picture-heavy


Pete

My dewlaps are on day 25 ! Major shadowing since this morning on 3 & peanut is my turtle but growing strong

This was my first year at hatching Emus & I got 4 so far with this one in the hatcher !

 

[RiverGoddess]

Well this is all going to be a little weird ~ I am not advising anyone on hatching ~ But this is just what seems to work for me & my bator

My levels

84-86 degrees humidity ~ WET bulb reads in Fahrenheit
28-32 days ~ incubation Geese
99.75 temp with a auto shut off of 100.5 (so my bator will never run hotter than 100.5 & steadies at 99.75)

I have two lights ~ the one on the left (if you are looking at the pic) is my 99.75 ~ the one on the right is telling me when my bator is not the 99.75 & auto shuts off when it reaches optimum temp. If it goes over 99.75 light comes on, and will shut off when it gets to precise temp. The switch on top shuts bator on & off . The box to the right ~ When light is lit my auto turner is on, and the little toggle lets me shut it on & off.







Everything is run on mercury thermometers ~ If you see the ends of them ~ they are colored. They were hand dipped by a color code for temperature. You can buy them from 83 degrees to 101 1//2 degrees (by 1/4 increments)











My Humidity is gaged by a mercury thermometer & a wet bulb.

I run 99.75 ~ with a high of 100.5
Wet bulb humidity of 82-84 degrees from set to hatch
(I do not mist, cool, or change anything)
I LD 3-4 days prior to hatch. Geese 28 days




My bator is a 1 of 14 made (that is what the IX14 means) Each bator was hand made/crafted per order by the Petersime Bros. Who now have passed away.

 

[RiverGoddess]

A wet bulb thermometer is a thermometer with a wick on the bottom sitting in water, measuring the temperature of the water in the incubator.


Example: an 82 degree wet bulb and an actual temperature of 100 degrees give you an accurate humidity reading of 47percent.

( Just a tidbit ~ I am not running 82-84 percent humidity )

 

[pete55]

RiverGoddess - Yes its the old fashioned method of measuring humidity but these days technology makes us lazy as so easy to measure relative humidity.
That's a great post and thanks for sharing the details about your incubator with all the pictures.

All very very interesting and you just don't get Petersime Incubators over here in the UK. However there is Petersime Commercial Incubators in Europe but these are 'Walk In' huge commercial incubators. In the UK the most well known are Brinsea and R-Com.

Its fascinating to see these older hand crafted machines that still yield excellent results (we have an old wooden Curfew used as a hatcher).

Interesting as well to see the Mercury thermometers as I love these (extremely reliable) but unfortunately no longer available due to health and safety. Are the egg trays on a drum that tilts them backwards and forwards with your hatching trays on the bottom? Most of the cabinet machines seem to recommend setting the eggs vertically but I've never done this with geese. Also how is the heat distributed as I assumed your Petersime is fan/fans driven???

Thanks for the great range of photos and so interesting that you're hatching an Emu with your other eggs. Loved the last picture of your hatchling Emu - they've got such a gorgeous pattern when babies

I have mixed parrot eggs with the geese but the Rheas were incubated a full degree lower as recommended by other Ratite owners. A longer wait but easy to hatch though they almost 'explode' out of the egg!!!

 

[RiverGoddess]

The above pic shows the extent of the front tilt (& the wooden paddle on the bottom ~ see the darker wood under the 4th tray?)





The guy I bought my bator from was an Emu farmer. So that is the mercury thermometers you see @ 97.5 & 98.0

I hatched my geese, chicken, & ducks at the 97.5 when my Emus were set ~ but my hatch days were delayed buy 3+ days on my chicken, duck & geese. But still had the same hatch rate just longer incubation

I also switched my thermometers to the 99.75 recently with 3 emu eggs still cooking ~ & got 1 to hatch & another in the hatcher. (other was a sloshy)

Yes front to back on the tilt & CRAZY angle as straight up and down as they can be!! If you do not set eggs perfectly they will fall out ! (yes I have done this a few times)

The hatcher is in the bottom & I can fit either
100 goose, 364 Chicken, or 198 duck/turkey eggs in the hatcher at once

It does not have a fan but a wooden rod/paddle that rotates around the drum REALLY fast on a belt driven system (ouch ! been whacked by it a couple times) So the paddle evenly distributes the air through the bator (kinda a crazy tornado in there actually. There is also 4 holes on top of the bator that you can adjust for air flow ~ heat/humidity

You can still buy the mercury thermometers from Philadelphia instruments & they are not cheap ~ ships as hazardous etc. But yes you can still buy them. (may not be cheap but they seem to last for years) The 2 that came with the bator are dated 1994 ~ & they still work great

I also have not had any change in hatch rate due to setting goose eggs tilted or straight up & down (done both depending on space in my bator). Just set 85 goose side by side with no tilt... Also my Dewlap eggs are also set vertical

 

[pete55]

Its so interesting to see the present Cabinet Incubators following similar designs to the Petersime. I didn't realise that the paddle created such a strong airflow when you described it as a tornado in the incubator!!!

Also there's nothing wrong with setting vertically and I've done with exotic species for years with some research supporting the theory that it reduces the incidences of breech positioning. Maybe your results support this. however its the size of the Goose egg that concerns me and that they wouldn't fall out of the trays.

Do you know what kind of thermostat controls the temperature and where the temperature is measured? For example where do you place the mercury thermometers?

At the moment we've had good results with our R-Com but they just lack capacity. We're considering a Cabinet Brinsea that's got similarities with the Petersime. You can get them in 190 or 380 (hen egg) capacities. All have three trays as shelves that tilt side to side with a hatching tray at the bottom of the unit.

They've got 4 fans in the top to circulate the heat but I think the smaller 190 will have the greater air flow as its the same design as the larger only not as deep. Their other new feature that's attracting me to them is an optional cooling period that can be programmed in to operate daily.

 

[kuntrygirl]

Here are pictures of my saddleback Poms. 1 more hatched so now have unlucky 13. 1 still to go.

They are beautiful!

 

[Miss Lydia]

They are beautiful!

X2 Congrats!!

 

[Iain Utah]

I have a pip! Gosh it's going to be hard to leave tomorrow.

Update??

Here are pictures of my saddleback Poms. 1 more hatched so now have unlucky 13. 1 still to go.

Beautiful!

Fowl Menagerie

Well done with your result of hatching all those Poms. They look a lovely group and you must be very pleased.

Don't forget to post details of your successful incubation settings for other members to refer too.

They'll keep you bust as they grow and best of luck with the last eggs to hatch.

Iain

I would just let them select new nest sites and leave the old ones sealed. It gives you a chance to clean up the area and discourage mites etc. You'll be squeezing those last eggs in, Im sure

Pip&Peeps

Just typical but I'm sure your little one will be ok. It'll probably be sitting there all bright eyed and innocent looking when you return

Ok. I will set up new boxes today in that yard. I hope it is ok to put a box on the landing area where the original box is located. But I am quite sure if I do, my broody girl will quickly set up a new nest there.

I can't believe I got 11 developing eggs from the two nests (5 are grey dewlaps). I tossed newly set duck eggs and was able to squeeze 8 into my bator, but not sure how to get the other 3 moved over before I lockdown my hatcher tomorrow. I'm happy with the surprise bonus eggs, but bummed because I don't have room to set the eggs I have been gathering the past few days from my select prize girls. Plus, I have two more broody nests to bust up and am sure at least one will have a large clutch of developing eggs. I may have to race out and buy a 3rd bator.

My dewlaps are on day 25 ! Major shadowing since this morning on 3 & peanut is my turtle but growing strong

This was my first year at hatching Emus & I got 4 so far with this one in the hatcher !

I know you are excited about the 1st grey dewlap baby, but I can't wait to see the pair of white African eggs hatch. They are going to be adorable... and I'm jealous!

 

[8GeeseALaying]

Ive got 2 external pips so far! Hoping the other 2 are just slow. Wont be long, ill have lil balls of fluff.