Marans Thread - breed discussion & pictures are welcome!

[Debbi]

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Thanks for posting this Walt! You Rock!!!

Thanks Walt, but would the DQ for rust in the feathers apply to a Splash Copper?? These birds are coming from Blues and more often, Blue Coppers. I don't think they should hold the "rust" against them, if this is indeed what they mean as the copper shows through in the hackles/saddles. On the other hand, maybe with the Marans, the "rust" would be more of a mossy or leakage factor, instead of clear copper hackles/saddle feathers? Did that make any sense?

 

[pinkchick]

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Thanks Geebsie! Been missing you like mad my friend.

Right now I am trying to work out some bugs in the breeders. STUPID COMBS!!!!!

Still have to get a photo of the Black Copper male that I have so you and Don can check out his comb. He is a lovely bird...colors are glorious...wish he didn't have that dumb little extra point in the center of his comb.

Kim, from the way you describe the comb on this male I believe you just have an uneven serration of the comb. It it is just a smaller point mixed in with the regular point it would only be a fault and is seen quite a bit in Large fowl and bantams. It would be something you would want to breed out though. Lot of times it shows up more in the female, and we should check the female comb better. Why not do a couple of single matings with this male over hens with good comb and see what you get.

Thanks for your words Don...I will get a photo for you. It does sound just as you have described. He is a nice male and now that he is almost 5 mos. old I would hate to send him to the freezer, there's just something about this boy that keeps me feeding him.

 

[berkeleysprings]

now y are u not going by blue chick ?
is there one already ?
just funning with ya !

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I have a splash and her legs are blue.... Your roo does not have blue legs

Are they OK to have either color of legs ?

I personally love the blue legs and it is what I breed for. I do not keep or breed birds with the white/pinkish colored legs, don't know why....just don't care for them. Give me the blue...the blue, the blue, the blue, I say!

But like Geebs said...it's acceptable to have both.

 

[snowbird]

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Thanks for posting this Walt! You Rock!!!

Thanks Walt, but would the DQ for rust in the feathers apply to a Splash Copper?? These birds are coming from Blues and more often, Blue Coppers. I don't think they should hold the "rust" against them, if this is indeed what they mean as the copper shows through in the hackles/saddles. On the other hand, maybe with the Marans, the "rust" would be more of a mossy or leakage factor, instead of clear copper hackles/saddle feathers? Did that make any sense?

Debbi, If the SPLASH ever are accepted into the APA it will be as "SPLASH" and there is a really good example of a nice splash pullet a few pages back.

 

[pinkchick]

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Thanks for posting this Walt! You Rock!!!

Thanks Walt, but would the DQ for rust in the feathers apply to a Splash Copper?? These birds are coming from Blues and more often, Blue Coppers. I don't think they should hold the "rust" against them, if this is indeed what they mean as the copper shows through in the hackles/saddles. On the other hand, maybe with the Marans, the "rust" would be more of a mossy or leakage factor, instead of clear copper hackles/saddle feathers? Did that make any sense?

Debbi~ If the variety of bird being shown is a "Splash Copper" then I cannot see why they would DQ the bird. Seems to me that there will be a need for more than one Splash color variety of Marans standards written. If we think about it.....we have Splash Copper, Splash and Splash Birchen.....then what about Splash Cuckoo, Splash Wheaten and etc. Certainly each different variety cannot be judged as one in the same. Right?

 

[snowbird]

The biggest value from the different splash marans is in the breeding pens, by using the splash you will get more very good colored Blue and Copper Blue Marans. I do not see the APA having more than one "SPLASH" Variety of Marans.

 

[pinkchick]

If the SPLASH ever are accepted into the APA it will be as "SPLASH

Ok...you know me and I am not being argumentative, so help me out here.......how can they be just Splash? Some varieties of Splash (not just talking Marans here) will allow patterns to come through, for example, Splash Laced Red Wyandottes show their laced pattern. The extra blue gene does not effect the lacing pattern on these birds, so how could they be judged as just Splash when clearly they would be laced?​

 

[Debbi]

Well Kim, you are not the only one with the stupid comb thing going on!

Of the four pullets I have that are my F1s, and will be 16 weeks tomorrow, ALL but one has a carnation comb!

Three weeks ago, three of them looked normal, and now they have sprouted overnight it seems. I tell you, it was all I could do to keep from losing my cookies! Went back and looked at my notes on them, and these were the babies that could've been from the left overs of Fuglee being in the pen. I sure hope this is the case! While Fuglee did not express the carnation, one of his sisters/hatchmate pullets did. So if he and the other pullets without the stupid combs each had one gene for carnation, the pairing would explain why now three of these babies have it! GEEEEEEESSSSS! The fourth baby in that bunch does not have a carnation, but still would carry the one gene for it, so now all of these pullets are destined to be culled out.

Don ~ Did any of your birds from the Jeanne/Presley breedings ever show up with sprigs or carnations?? I sure hope not, as that would mean that Clyde and Roy would carry one gene for it, as neither one expresses it. I want this problem gone!! All I can see lately are the combs!

That said, when the Fuglee soldiers were well out of the mix, I had three more chicks produced. One has a huge carnation comb, but I am assuming that this boy came from the hen that has the carnation herself. The other two chicks, one pullet, and one roo, don't have the carnations. Talk about depressing, it was enough to make me want to quit this breed. I suppose I could use the pullets for layers only, but without another pen yet, that will have to wait. I think I'd rather just cull them all off the place altogether. Soooo depressing!

 

[berkeleysprings]

what in the world would a splash wheaten look like ? Would the males and females be dimorphic? And also have a wing triangle? that moight not b thee right way to word it but would hens and roo look like different colors?

 

[Debbi]

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Ok...you know me and I am not being argumentative, so help me out here.......how can they be just Splash? Some varieties of Splash (not just talking Marans here) will allow patterns to come through, for example, Splash Laced Red Wyandottes show their laced pattern. The extra blue gene does not effect the lacing pattern on these birds, so how could they be judged as just Splash when clearly they would be laced?

I agree. If they are going to accept Splash, they are going to have to at least except the Splash and the Splash Copper. Then, like you say there are the other varieties. That sure won't be an easy SOP to come up with!