May trade for a new horse thoughts please?

[~*Sweet Cheeks*~]

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I would get a vet check on any horse I was going to buy. Strangles shows within a couple weeks and would be picked up by a vet check. (Nose drainage and swollen lymph nodes in the jaw, fever).

 

[WIChookchick]

Arab equine..
Do you not remember the black gelding you looked at, the one that was bucking off its owner.. the one that wouldn't listen when she simply asked it to go in a circle on the lunge line??!!!!

This mare will have the same issues.. AND she is 18.. she has INGRAINED behavior issues. The only difference of her running off in an arena vs out in the open.. is you go over the fence when she suddenly stops after running laps IN the arena.. and not listening to you.

PLEASE... go to some other website other than craigslist... don't look for a horse under a 1000, don't look at a horse that has not been ridden in a while, older than 20 or 15ish...Smaller than 15.2/16 HH, CHUNKY, heavily built (think TANK)...Look for a schooling horse, former show horse, or something along those lines.


You will see a new thread started by me about a young horse my client found on the craigslist.. BUT he is young, I will train him, and I have a place to keep him... And then I will sell him.

I am finding bad horses all over the place, finding free horses...
But if you want a horse you can ride, safely, have fun with, and have a horse you can help your younger horse to learn from....
SPEND a little more money, and look at a horse that you KNOW will be safe, sane, and sound.

JMHO
Carol

 

[michickenwrangler]

Maybe try www.dreamhorse.com

The people who post on there are a little more horse savvy

 

[ultasol]

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It sounds like this is a different rescue that got hooked into buying one of the feedlot horses and has been rehabbing him.

 

[NellaBean]

Same rescue, new name. Lots of drama surrounding them for years. They keep changing their name to try to avoid it. doesn't work.

http://fuglyblog.com/?p=2434

 

[EweSheep]

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[arabianequine]

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YOU are talking about the zillha/yakima feed lot right? This horse came from there about a month ago he is now at a rescue in olympia washington.

That website is http://s2.webstarts.com/PhantomMeadowEquineRescueRespiteRehabilitationRetirement/

 

[Kansaseq]

Wow. Just WOW.
Some people are truly evil.

 

[Rusty Hills Farm]

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YOU are talking about the zillha/yakima feed lot right? This horse came from there about a month ago he is now at a rescue in olympia washington.

That website is http://s2.webstarts.com/PhantomMeadowEquineRescueRespiteRehabilitationRetirement/

If NellaBean, is right, this IS the "rescue" she was talking about. Phantom Meadow is just their newest incarnation. On that fuglyblog.com, they mention Phantom Meadow as being owned by the same folks who owned a now-defunct rescue that had its 501 certificate canceled by the state.

Sad day indeed when people figure out how to use horses to make a buck in an apparent scam where the horse gets "rescued" by folks and still somehow winds up on the slaughter truck. Gee, I hope it isn't true, but I'd be awful careful dealing with these people!

Rusty

 

[welsummerchicks]

Because a bad outfit has the horse, doesn't mean it's a bad horse. I've bought from some pretty bad places. Even if I knew the place was bad, I would still look at horses there. I would have a vet go over the horse, that's all.

I have no problem with a 'rescue' charging a reasonable price for the horses they get and rehome. A fee weeds out the less able owners, and makes the getting of the horse more seriously thought through.

I have no problem with anyone who gets horses off of slaughter auctions, feeds them, vets them, shoes them, puts some training into them, evaluates what kind of owner they should go to, and sells them for more than they bought them for. How else are they going to keep their barn in repair, buy bedding, buy hay, pay the farrier? You can't keep the lights on for long if you spend a lot of money and don't get anything back.

I have no problem with any group that gets slaughter horses, and then finds some of them are going to have to go back to the slaughter type auction anyway.

There's a lot of places calling themselves 'rescues', but I think it's pretty much impossible for any organization, to never charge more for a horse they place than they got it for, or to never send a horse back down the hill.

I don't know what all the details of the rules are for getting that special status from the government, but I'm going to bet that it doesn't involve never selling a horse for more than you got it for or never sending a horse back down the hill. I'll bet there's some restrictions, but no one would ever be able to keep doing something unless they made some money at it. One does have to keep the lights on and the truck with gas.

That said, I took a few more careful looks at the rescue in question in light of fugly's complaints. I STILL see horses that are in good flesh and appear to have decent descriptions. I don't think Joe or some of the other horses have had their feet trimmed in a while.

Some rescues are 'reprieve dealers'. What I mean is, they pick up cheap horses at kill auctions. They don't do much with the horses - no real indepth training, they keep them for a few months (hopefully less) and try to get them sold, hopefully for a little more than what they got them for (or again, can't pay the light bill). Some of the horses are going to turn out to be hopeless, and may have to go back to slaughter. There won't be any guarantees for what will happen. Some horses are going to be too crazy, or too nervous, or just too untrained. Others will have lameness that makes them unsellable. Some might get put down on the property.

I don't have a problem with a place calling themselves a 'rescue' when they're really a bottom-of-the-bucket dealer. Why? Because that's what just about everyone calls themselves these days, so I'd have to have a problem with everyone. Fact is, 'rescue' is in the eye of the beholder and it means whatever the speaker wants it to mean, from bought-a-horse-in-bad-shape-and-kept-it to bought-a-horse-in-bad-shape-and-sold-it. And yes, it used to be called, 'being a horse dealer'.

There are no 'nice' endings for a lot of lame, untrained or dangerous horses, never has been. The best thing anyone can ever do, is keep their fences fixed up, take good care of the horse, get regular vet care and shoeing, get educated, get riding lessons and/or training instead of just leaving the horse there doing nothing.

And if there's a problem instead of being greedy or a coward, put them down on their own property, instead of trying to get a few more dollars out of them.